[200q20v] source for header for NA I5?
Fundsalo Racing
fundsaloracing at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 12 09:14:14 EDT 2001
Very different engines, the 84-87 4KQ Vs the 130HP
87.5 CGT.
-glen
OOOO
--- Chris Covington <malth at umich.edu> wrote:
> Well, they're both 87 models, so I have a hard time
> believing that
> comparing an 87 4KQ with an 87.5 CGT is not
> applicable. I think Audi just
> knew that the CGT was the sportier and faster car,
> and didn't try to keep
> the 4KQ faster, for some reason.
>
> Chris
> '91 2cq
>
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Fundsalo Racing wrote:
>
> > The last (some?) of the Coupe GTs here in the US
> got
> > the 130/136/137HP (depending who you ask) engine
> with
> > higher compression, piston squirters, better
> oil-pan
> > baffling, etc. Not a direct comparison with the
> older
> > Coupe GTs and the 4KQs of US-spec.
> >
> > -glen
> >
> > OOOO
> >
> > --- C1J1Miller at aol.com wrote:
> > > The 87.5 coupe was sold here as the "last" coupe
> in
> > > USA until the '90/91 new body style car; don't
> know
> > > what happened overseas.
> > >
> > > Keep in mind we're usually a year or two late on
> > > what we get; the new body style 4000 (read our
> '88
> > > on 80/90) was out with the 130 hp engine/
> CIS-EIII
> > > everywhere else, so it really was Audi not
> upgrading
> > > the last of the 4kq's...
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > In a message dated Thu, 12 Apr 2001 8:40:44 AM
> > > Eastern Daylight Time, Chris Covington
> > > <malth at umich.edu> writes:
> > >
> > > << But didn't the 87.5 Coupe GT have more power
> than
> > > any other 4KQ EVER
> > > (130hp?)? And I'm sure with more power and less
> > > weight, it was faster.
> > > I'm not so sure that the 4KQ was 'supposed' to
> be
> > > just as fast as the
> > > Coupe GT.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > '91 2cq
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Fundsalo Racing wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think one reason it is so difficult to
> improve
> > > on is
> > > > that Audi required the 4KQ to be just as fast
> or
> > > > faster Vs the Coupe GT of the same vintage for
> > > > marketing reasons. They designed a special
> 2-piece
> > > > cast/tubular heaser system and a very good
> exhaust
> > > > system to get 5+ HP more from the otherwise
> > > identical
> > > > engine in the Coupe GT to overcome the
> additional
> > > > weight of the AWD and keep the 4KQ as fast or
> > > faster
> > > > Vs the Coupe GT of the day. They put a lot of
> > > extra
> > > > development work and expense into the 4KQ
> exaust
> > > for
> > > > this reason.
> > > >
> > > > -glen
> > > >
> > > > OOOO
> > > >
> > > > --- Linus Toy <linust at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > > At 04:45 AM 4/11/2001 -0700, Fundsalo Racing
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Do you have information to the effect that
> the
> > > 4KQ
> > > > > 85
> > > > > > > 87 systems is any better Vs the 4KQ 84
> > > system? I
> > > > > had
> > > > > >thought they were identical, cast 5-into-3
> EM
> > > bolts
> > > > > to
> > > > > >head and tubular 3-into-1 bolts to EM. It
> is a
> > > very
> > > > > >nice factory system, takes advantage of the
> > > > > >5-into-3-into-1 design and is quiet and
> > > > > long-lasting
> > > > > >due to the cast EM at the head Vs 100%
> tubular.
> > > > > >Thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-glen
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, no. you might check the family album
> to
> > > see
> > > > > if the p/n are the same
> > > > > or different.
> > > > > Related thought: I once spoke with a tech
> at
> > > Borla,
> > > > > inquiring about
> > > > > systems for the 4kcsq. This was back in the
> > > late
> > > > > 80s when they were still
> > > > > new, but few exhaust systems needed
> replacement
> > > > > then, so very limited
> > > > > market. At any rate, his comment was that
> they
> > > were
> > > > > having (then) a tough
> > > > > time improving on the factory system.
> > > Interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Linus
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
*--------------------------------------------------------------------*
> > > > > * Linus Toy Insanity
> is
> > > doing
> > > > > the same thing *
> > > > > * Mercer Island, WA you've
> always
> > > done
> > > > > and expecting *
> > > > > * linust at mindspring.com different
> > > results
> > > > > *
> > > > > * -
> Roger
> > > > > Milliken *
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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