[200q20v] source for header for NA I5?

[Chris Covington]

Well, they're both 87 models, so I have a hard time believing that
comparing an 87 4KQ with an 87.5 CGT is not applicable.  I think Audi just
knew that the CGT was the sportier and faster car, and didn't try to keep
the 4KQ faster, for some reason.

Chris
'91 2cq

On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Fundsalo Racing wrote:
 
> The last (some?) of the Coupe GTs here in the US got
> the 130/136/137HP (depending who you ask) engine with
> higher compression, piston squirters, better oil-pan
> baffling, etc. Not a direct comparison with the older
> Coupe GTs and the 4KQs of US-spec.
> 
> -glen
> 
> OOOO
> 
> --- C1J1Miller at aol.com wrote:
> > The 87.5 coupe was sold here as the "last" coupe in
> > USA until the '90/91 new body style car; don't know
> > what happened overseas. 
> > 
> > Keep in mind we're usually a year or two late on
> > what we get; the new body style 4000 (read our '88
> > on 80/90) was out with the 130 hp engine/ CIS-EIII
> > everywhere else, so it really was Audi not upgrading
> > the last of the 4kq's...
> > Chris
> > 
> > In a message dated Thu, 12 Apr 2001  8:40:44 AM
> > Eastern Daylight Time, Chris Covington
> > <malth at umich.edu> writes:
> > 
> > << But didn't the 87.5 Coupe GT have more power than
> > any other 4KQ EVER
> > (130hp?)?  And I'm sure with more power and less
> > weight, it was faster.
> > I'm not so sure that the 4KQ was 'supposed' to be
> > just as fast as the
> > Coupe GT.
> > 
> > Chris
> > '91 2cq
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Fundsalo Racing wrote:
> > 
> > > I think one reason it is so difficult to improve
> > on is
> > > that Audi required the 4KQ to be just as fast or
> > > faster Vs the Coupe GT of the same vintage for
> > > marketing reasons. They designed a special 2-piece
> > > cast/tubular heaser system and a very good exhaust
> > > system to get 5+ HP more from the otherwise
> > identical
> > > engine in the Coupe GT to overcome the additional
> > > weight of the AWD and keep the 4KQ as fast or
> > faster
> > > Vs the Coupe GT of the day. They put a lot of
> > extra
> > > development work and expense into the 4KQ exaust
> > for
> > > this reason.
> > > 
> > > -glen
> > > 
> > > OOOO
> > > 
> > > --- Linus Toy <linust at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > > At 04:45 AM 4/11/2001 -0700, Fundsalo Racing
> > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Do you have information to the effect that the
> > 4KQ
> > > > 85
> > > > > > 87 systems is any better Vs the 4KQ 84
> > system? I
> > > > had
> > > > >thought they were identical, cast 5-into-3 EM
> > bolts
> > > > to
> > > > >head and tubular 3-into-1 bolts to EM. It is a
> > very
> > > > >nice factory system, takes advantage of the
> > > > >5-into-3-into-1 design and is quiet and
> > > > long-lasting
> > > > >due to the cast EM at the head Vs 100% tubular.
> > > > >Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >-glen
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry, no.  you might check the family album to
> > see
> > > > if the p/n are the same 
> > > > or different.
> > > > Related thought:  I once spoke with a tech at
> > Borla,
> > > > inquiring about 
> > > > systems for the 4kcsq.  This was back in the
> > late
> > > > 80s when they were still 
> > > > new, but few exhaust systems needed replacement
> > > > then, so very limited 
> > > > market.  At any rate, his comment was that they
> > were
> > > > having (then) a tough 
> > > > time improving on the factory system. 
> > Interesting.
> > > > 
> > > > --Linus
> > > >
> > >
> >
> *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
> > > > *  Linus Toy                      Insanity is
> > doing
> > > > the same thing   *
> > > > *  Mercer Island, WA              you've always
> > done
> > > > and expecting   *
> > > > *  linust at mindspring.com          different
> > results 
> > > >                 *
> > > > *                                      - Roger
> > > > Milliken              *
> > > >
> > >
> >
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