H&R 29800 and Bilstien Sports opinions

[Brian Link]

These numbers are from a post a while back.  I hope they are right, I suppose a call to H&R to confirm is in order.

H&R spring rates
200 20v springs  #29800 220 lb/in F 310 lb/in R
V8 Springs #29921 300 ib/in F 330 ib/in R

Brian




-----Original Message-----
From:	TM [SMTP:t44tq at mindspring.com]
Sent:	Monday, June 03, 2002 11:59 AM
To:	'Brian Link'; 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject:	RE: H&R 29800 and Bilstien Sports opinions

Brian-
Do you have #s for the spring rates of the 29800, the V8 H&R and
your Eibachs? I'd love to know what the differences are.

Taka

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Link [mailto:brianl at starsys.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:40 PM
To: 'TM'; 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: RE: H&R 29800 and Bilstien Sports opinions


Thanks for the reply Taka,
I think I was a bit surprised by the amount of body roll with the H&R's.

 As I said I have stiffer rear springs on my 20v and the body roll is
much
less.  I am starting to think a rear roll bar isn't really necessary,
maybe
just stiffer springs in the back will make a big difference in reducing
body roll without making the ride too much worse.   I wonder if the
optimal
set-up would be a H&R kit with the 200 20v front springs and the V8
rears...

Neither my stock front eibach rears or the H&R's both with Bilstien
sports
seemed underdamped over bumps (my bumps may differ from yours).

Brian



-----Original Message-----
From:	TM [SMTP:t44tq at mindspring.com]
Sent:	Monday, June 03, 2002 11:24 AM
To:	'Brian Link'; 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject:	RE: H&R 29800 and Bilstien Sports opinions

???

Plush? I have that setup and it is far from plush- the springs are quite
stiff, takes quite a bit of force to really compress the springs.

"Snip"

Biggest problem I have is the body roll- even with the Bilstein sport
and H&R springs the car rolls like a big boat when pushed hard. Only
thing I can think of to combat this would be to put a large front
anti-roll bar on the car and a rear bar to combat the corresponding
understeer.

I think the shocks are more of a problem than the springs- the shocks
need more rebound damping so the ride doesn't get ridiculously jiggly on
short
bumps- our
A4 w/ H&R coilovers rides better in that regard, although the shorter
wheelbase makes the car less comfortable, but the shock damping is much
better in that setup.

Taka