200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1462 - 4 msgs

[Tom Daily]

Anyone know where I might get a used intercooler for my 200TQ 20V? A substitute unit that would install without a lot of trouble would also be of interest. Many thanks, Tom Daily

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Today's Topics:

   1. Eurolight group buy anyone (Patrick Anderson)
   2. Re: Cooling System (MAXIMUM at WEETAMOO.COM)
   3. Re: Cooling System (Mike Del Tergo)
   4. Re: Cooling System (DasWolfen at aol.com)

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Message: 1
From: "Patrick Anderson" <ptanders at attbi.com>
To: "200q20v list" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Subject: Eurolight group buy anyone
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 19:51:47 -0700

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I have been meaning to get eurolights for my car since I bought it. So, now=
 that I have the Samco hose group buy all wrapped up I might just have time=
 to put together a group buy on the headlights. Just let me know if you are=
/might be interested.

Patrick Anderson
ptanders at attbi.com
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Message: 2
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
Cc: ferd154 at aol.com
From: MAXIMUM at WEETAMOO.COM
Subject: Re: Cooling System
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:23:43 -0700 (PDT)

>>I was sitting at the gate at the bottom of Mt. Equinox in southern Vt. I had made the run up
>>many times in many different German cars. As I said, it was a foggy day, not much point in
>>driving up to have a look at things, not much to see. I asked the gatekeeper if anyone had
>>gone up. Nope, said she. I was set, off we went. The road is a real blast to drive up, you should
>>check it out if you're ever in the hood.

Umm, there are no places in Vermont that resemble a hood ;-)

Royal aka 16RoT

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Message: 3
From: "Mike Del Tergo" <mdeltergo at hotmail.com>
To: DasWolfen at aol.com
Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: Re: Cooling System
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:19:48 +0000

From:DasWolfen at aol.com
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  Anyone who's ever experienced the "heat gain" phenomena after swapping an
engine and forgetting to improve an already marginal cooling system will
have a full understanding of the purpose of the aux radiator.

Keith,
it depends on why is was marginal in the first place, bad design, or plugged
rad, heater core, tstat, bad coolant, bad rad fan?  I bumped the horsepower
in my UrQ 20%, dropped the aux rad, and still run below an indicated 100C in
90 ambient.  Before the tsat in the 200 failed I ran 130MPH in the desert at
high noon and the indicated temp was barely at the "thick middle" hash mark.
  This indicated to me that the cooling system was pretty robust.  And you
have Tom who is operating that way with no ill effects to date. Interesting.
Mike



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Message: 4
From: DasWolfen at aol.com
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:09:52 EDT
Subject: Re: Cooling System
To: mdeltergo at hotmail.com
Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com

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In a message dated 4/10/03 8:30:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mdeltergo at hotmail.com writes:

> From:DasWolfen at aol.com
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>  Anyone who's ever experienced the "heat gain" phenomena after swapping an
> engine and forgetting to improve an already marginal cooling system will
> have a full understanding of the purpose of the aux radiator.
>
> Keith,
> it depends on why is was marginal in the first place, bad design, or
> plugged
> rad, heater core, tstat, bad coolant, bad rad fan?  I bumped the horsepower
> in my UrQ 20%, dropped the aux rad, and still run below an indicated 100C
> in
> 90 ambient.  Before the tsat in the 200 failed I ran 130MPH in the desert
> at
> high noon and the indicated temp was barely at the "thick middle" hash
> mark.
>  This indicated to me that the cooling system was pretty robust.  And you
> have Tom who is operating that way with no ill effects to date.
> Interesting.
> Mike


 Mike,
 Try this scenario. July, California, I-8, Westbound, 15 (?) miles at an +8 %
grade, A/C on, full throttle.

 An extreme scenario? Of course it is, but thats the type of thing the
engineers have to account for. Exactly what I didnt account for when I
dropped a 400hp, 500ftlb, 460cid BB into a 77 Ford Futura and left the stock
302 radiator in place. For two years I never had a heat gain problem till I
tried that long uphill late one July afternoon. I had been cruising in excess
of 100mph since Yuma, outside temp a hair over 120, A/C blasting, no problems
at all. (except watching my fuel gauge race for E)

 I have no doubt the stock 20v cooling system minus the aux can deal with
more than most owners will ever put it through but that was never the point.

Keith


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