Adding a topic- I have a 91 200TQ 20V

Gaballah, Bill bgaballah at kpmg.com
Tue Jan 14 12:26:44 EST 2003


Recently I was driving and the car just died.  I assumed it was the fuel
pump since it has never been replaced. the car has 137K.  the timing chain
was replaced at 100K.  Had is towed to the dealer and the dealer states he
removed the distributor to see why it wasn't getting any spark and found out
that the rotor was  in pieces.  The dealer suggests 12 hours in labor to
tear it down and check for further damage to the head etc.  he said best
case they would just replace the rotor and distributor spark plugs and
possible timing belt and worst case in addition to 12 hours labor I would
have to repair the head etc.  best case $2K worst $3500 or more.)  Can
anyone offer advice at this point?? I love the car, but I don't want to put
$2k into it.  One of my friends said that if the rotor has never been
replaced it is possible that you could just replace the rotor and the cap
and see what happens.  This would be the cheapest option and this is
something they would have to do regardless.  Please advise.  thanks

Bill

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   1. RE: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 14 msgs (Brian Link)
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Message: 1
Subject: RE: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 14 msgs
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:23:05 -0700
From: "Brian Link" <BrianL at starsys.com>
To: <tgsgronback at mindspring.com>, <200q20v at audifans.com>

Steve,
That's crazy,  Mine did the same thing last weekend? I had to pop start
my car to get home, then disconnect the battery when I got home. Do you
have a Bentley manual?
If it is only your switch you are in luck, $30 and you need to remove
the instrument cluster and the lower panel under the drivers dash.  Mine
turned out to be both the switch and the part of the ignition that turns
the switch.  To remove the whole ignition assembly you also need to
remove the steering wheel and steering column.  It is kind of a huge
pain.  I think the dealer wanted $75 for a new ignition switch with
keys.  I took just the part I needed from a wrecked 200 so I could keep
my keys.  If you don't have a Bentley, the only hard part is finding the
painted screws behind the dash to replace the plastic switch.

Good Luck

Brian Link
Boulder, CO
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-From: "Steve Gronback" <tgsgronback at mindspring.com>
-To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
-Subject: ignition switch
-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:29:37 -0500
-
-The ignition switch failed on my car this weekend.   My wife was using
the
-car, unfortunately for her.  The key spins freely, and current is on,
even with the key -removed...had to disconnect the battery.
-
-Does anyone have experience removing/repairing/replacing this unit?
-
-BTW, you have to love AAA.  They flatbedded my car 16 miles home for
$26. out of pocket.  For once, -the driver knew what he was doing!
-
-Thanks,
-Steve

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:51:58 -0700
From: Charles Baer <charlie at istari.com>
Organization: Istari Technologies
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
Cc: Brian Link <BrianL at starsys.com>, tgsgronback at mindspring.com
Subject: Re: 200q20v digest, Vol 1 #1334 - 14 msgs

I bought the dealer assembly and switch to do this a few months ago
after a ham-fisted car wash gang forced my switch and broke it. Brian
made a good move finding an older part, the new rotator tab piece is
slightly different and won't fit older cylinder assemblies.

I did find a source for the black security cap so I cut the old one
off and rekeyed the new cylinder to match the other locks.  If you
choose that route, be careful not to cut the retaining circlip when
you cut off the cap.  This is where I bought the cap:

 Andrew's Wholesale Lock Supply
 544 South 9th. Street, Lebanon, PA 17042
 800-544-0519 - 717-274-8659 (FAX)
 E-Mail: sales at andrewslock.com

The PDFs on their site showed P-31-609 for a 91, but it turned out
that mine was a P-31-610 ( 91> V8s, 92> 100s & urS ).  The 609 has
a rounded surround while the 610 has a flat face around the keyhole.

Charlie

Brian Link wrote:
>
> Steve,
> That's crazy,  Mine did the same thing last weekend? I had to pop start
> my car to get home, then disconnect the battery when I got home. Do you
> have a Bentley manual?
> If it is only your switch you are in luck, $30 and you need to remove
> the instrument cluster and the lower panel under the drivers dash.  Mine
> turned out to be both the switch and the part of the ignition that turns
> the switch.  To remove the whole ignition assembly you also need to
> remove the steering wheel and steering column.  It is kind of a huge
> pain.  I think the dealer wanted $75 for a new ignition switch with
> keys.  I took just the part I needed from a wrecked 200 so I could keep
> my keys.  If you don't have a Bentley, the only hard part is finding the
> painted screws behind the dash to replace the plastic switch.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Brian Link
> Boulder, CO
> -
> -From: "Steve Gronback" <tgsgronback at mindspring.com>
> -To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
> -Subject: ignition switch
> -Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:29:37 -0500
> -
> -The ignition switch failed on my car this weekend.   My wife was using
> the
> -car, unfortunately for her.  The key spins freely, and current is on,
> even with the key -removed...had to disconnect the battery.
> -
> -Does anyone have experience removing/repairing/replacing this unit?
> -
> -BTW, you have to love AAA.  They flatbedded my car 16 miles home for
> $26. out of pocket.  For once, -the driver knew what he was doing!
> -
> -Thanks,
> -Steve
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