[s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
Bill Bennett
ur.quattro at verizon.net
Sun Jun 22 21:10:13 EDT 2003
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Greg, I decided to be open minded and sent them a query, let you know the result when I get the reply. Best Regards, Bill PS don't tell Calvin about the open minded thing ;-) B
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Johnson
To: Bill Bennett
Cc: Calvin & Diana Craig ; 200 List
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
Bill,
Check out www.duracool.com.
Greg J
Bill Bennett wrote:
> Calvin, send me the Duracool specifications off list where we should
> have been a message or two ago, (my apologies to all) and if Duracool
> was cool, OEM's would be using it, ehh? Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Calvin & Diana Craig <mailto:calvinlc at earthlink.net>
> To: Bill Bennett <mailto:ur.quattro at verizon.net> ; Greg Johnson
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> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
>
> Bill,
>
> I am just saying that you brought up the whole flammable thing and
> I don't think it's a relevant argument against using R-12
> substitutes when the "substitute" the industry has made standard
> is more flammable. Why use Duracool...easy...I don't have to
> change my seals, etc. like I would if I switched to R-134a. If I
> had an R-134a car would I use something different...probably not,
> too easy to put the same crap in there that the factory did. And
> yes, it is scary that Saab builds airplanes.
>
> --Calvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Bennett [mailto:ur.quattro at verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:14 PM
> To: Calvin & Diana Craig; Greg Johnson; northwest audi
> enthusiasts; S Cars; V8; urq; 200 List
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
>
> Calvin, none of my cars have any refrigerant, I live in
> Orygun, save the weight, why haul around what you do not need,
> I just sit around every weekend spittin' and tossing matches
> with my beer buddies into a bucket filled with liquid
> gasoline, we bet who can make it lite off, the loser has to
> drink another beer, boy we get sheet faced! sit around and
> fart and beer burps and talk about the big difference between
> a liquid and a vapor (gas) in the same ignition event, we are
> thinking about building a device to collect vapor, go have
> some beers and toss matches and see what happens. And
> seriously! Duracool? who sells recycling machines for it? (no
> one) who sells recycling machines for R134a? All the A/C
> suppliers. Who supports Duracool with technical advise? no one
> I heard of. Who supports R134a with technical advise? Well
> MACS, iATN, SAE, LMVIND, WIS, TIS, Audi, Volvo, VW, Mickie
> Benz, BuMmerW, Porsche, Slaab( scary that Saab builds planes
> too), and all the American car manufacturers, oh, also the
> japs and koreans. Bill PS R 134a may not be the best
> coolant, it is the industry standard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Calvin & Diana Craig <mailto:calvinlc at earthlink.net>
> To: Bill Bennett <mailto:ur.quattro at verizon.net> ; Greg
> Johnson <mailto:gregsj2 at attbi.com> ; northwest audi
> enthusiasts <mailto:audi-nw at u.washington.edu> ; S Cars
> <mailto:s-car-list at audifans.com> ; V8
> <mailto:V8 at audifans.com> ; urq <mailto:urq at audifans.com> ;
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> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
>
> Bill,
>
> I hope you don't have any R134a in any of your vehicles.
> The autoignition temperature for that is 300 degrees LESS
> than Duracool. I don't know about Autofrost, but Duracool
> is what I use. A full charge of this stuff will create a
> flash for 1 to 1.5 seconds when ignited, which of course
> is harder to do than the R134a that is in all the newer
> vehicles. People see the word hydrocarbon and get
> scared. EVERYTHING is flammable, it's just a matter of at
> what temperature and under what conditions.
>
> I don't quite understand the statement about throw a match
> on liquid gasoline and it goes out. I thought gas was one
> of the best fire accelerators around.
>
> --Calvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Bennett [mailto:ur.quattro at verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:47 PM
> To: Calvin & Diana Craig; Greg Johnson; northwest audi
> enthusiasts; S Cars; V8; urq; 200 List
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
>
> Yeah, and it is not a foot from the front of the car
> in vapor in a fragile aluminum tube boob, no thanks
> Calvin, I like my urq too much to use this sheet,
> throw a match on liquid gasoline it goes out, throw a
> match on flammable gas? WHOMP!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Calvin & Diana Craig
> <mailto:calvinlc at earthlink.net>
> To: Bill Bennett <mailto:ur.quattro at verizon.net> ;
> Greg Johnson <mailto:gregsj2 at attbi.com> ;
> northwest audi enthusiasts
> <mailto:audi-nw at u.washington.edu> ; S Cars
> <mailto:s-car-list at audifans.com> ; V8
> <mailto:V8 at audifans.com> ; urq
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> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
>
> Yeah, so is gas, but we seem to put about 21
> gallons of that in the car :)
> --Calvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
> <mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com>
> [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of
> Bill Bennett
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:10 PM
> To: Greg Johnson; northwest audi enthusiasts; S
> Cars; V8; urq; 200 List
> Subject: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?
>
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> after visiting their website using that
> refrigerant in an URQ would be a BAD
> idea. URQ's use the mini York, the shaft seal
> materials are not compatible
> with that refrigerant R406A and it is flammable!
> not a good idea in a car,
> Kaboom! in a collision event! pay the piper and
> stay with R-12 or convert to
> R-134a. Regards, Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Johnson
> To: northwest audi enthusiasts ; S Cars ; V8 ;
> urq ; 200 List
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:39 PM
> Subject: [urq] AutoFrost?
>
>
> Have any of you successfully used AutoFrost
> instead of Freon?
>
> See www.autofrost.com <http://www.autofrost.com>
>
> TIA for your input.
>
> Greg J
> BIRA.ORG
>
>
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