200q20v Digest, Vol 3, Issue 6
Neil Vonhof
nhvonhof at comcast.net
Tue Jan 13 11:31:14 EST 2004
This AM sudden pulsing pop, pop, pop in right rear Boze speaker. Doing it
with engine on or off. Not too loud, but steady - engine rpm makes no
difference - it did it steadily for my entire 20 min. drive. Never had a
problem before now of any kind with the stock Boze system.
Any BTDT?
Thanks,
Neil Vonhof, Seattle
'91 200q20v sedan, 155,000 miles
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1. Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots (David Head)
2. Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots (Ingo Rautenberg)
3. Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots [type 44] (Ben Swann)
4. RE: Lower control arm ball joint boots (Derek Pulvino)
5. Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots (Bernstein, Jeff)
6. Lower control arm ball joint boots (Dr. Adam Gratz DO)
7. Rear window seals for an Avant (ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com)
8. Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots (Chuck Pierce)
9. RE: [s-cars] Questions regarding hesitation during
acceleration (Calvin & Diana Craig)
10. Front stock speaker sizes? (steve marinelli)
11. Re: Front stock speaker sizes? (Ingo Rautenberg)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 09:15:40 -0500
From: David Head <v8q at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots
To: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
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You can actually get the boots from the dealer. I did about 4 years back.
Bernie Benz wrote:
>You might try cleaning them and repairing with Si caulk.
>
>Bernie
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>>From: Chuck Pierce <cpcycle at earthlink.net>
>>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 21:49:44 -0800
>>To: 200 list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Lower control arm ball joint boots
>>
>>I am replacing the sway bar bushings and the lower control bushings.
>>Once I got every thing apart I noticed that the boots on the lower
>>control arm ball joints are cracked.
>>Can the boots be purchased separately. No I did not kill them taking it
>>apart, the ball joints can out of the strut housing easily.
>>Or do I just replace the control arms?
>>
>>Chuck Pierce
>>90 200tq 20v Avant
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:05:51 -0500
From: "Ingo Rautenberg" <IRautenberg at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots
To: "Chuck Pierce" <cpcycle at earthlink.net>, "200 list"
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Correction. I must have been thinking about Urq ball joint boots ;-). Of
course, the way Audi is discontinuing parts, who knows...
Ingo
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Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots
> Chuck,
>
> The boots are still not available separately AFAIK. In this instance I'd
> just replace the entire control arms and be done with it. Plus you'll
have
> saved the hassle of pressing out the old inner bushings and pressing in
the
> new ones :-)
>
> -Ingo
>
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> Subject: Lower control arm ball joint boots
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> > I am replacing the sway bar bushings and the lower control bushings.
> > Once I got every thing apart I noticed that the boots on the lower
> > control arm ball joints are cracked.
> > Can the boots be purchased separately. No I did not kill them taking it
> > apart, the ball joints can out of the strut housing easily.
> > Or do I just replace the control arms?
> >
> > Chuck Pierce
> > 90 200tq 20v Avant
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:13:07 -0500
From: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots [type 44]
To: <cpcycle at earthlink.net>
Cc: IRautenberg at comcast.net, quattro at audifans.com,
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I though they were. I had posted the same question sometime back, re.
balljoint boots for the 4kqs - not available, but the Type 44 ones were from
the dealer.
You may want to double check at the dealer.
Agree with Ingo on the other point though - if you have worn bushings. then
replace the entire control arm. thepartsconnection had them.
Ben
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Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots
To: "Chuck Pierce" <cpcycle at earthlink.net>, "200 list"
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Chuck,
The boots are still not available separately AFAIK. In this instance I'd
just replace the entire control arms and be done with it. Plus you'll have
saved the hassle of pressing out the old inner bushings and pressing in the
new ones :-)
-Ingo
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 09:50:20 -0800
From: "Derek Pulvino" <dbpulvino at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Lower control arm ball joint boots
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
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One angle would be to replace the whole control arm. As far as I know, the
boots are not available seperately. When I replaced suspension pieces, I
damage the boot as well. As luck would have it, if you buy a bug
ball-joint, and unfortunately I don't remember if there's several diameters,
the ball joint boot diameters are compatable with our vehicles.
Believe me, I know. I've been using one for about 60k now.
Derek P
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>Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 21:49:44 -0800
>From: Chuck Pierce <cpcycle at earthlink.net>
>Subject: Lower control arm ball joint boots
>To: 200 list <200q20v at www.audifans.com>
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>I am replacing the sway bar bushings and the lower control bushings.
>Once I got every thing apart I noticed that the boots on the lower
>control arm ball joints are cracked.
>Can the boots be purchased separately. No I did not kill them taking it
>apart, the ball joints can out of the strut housing easily.
>Or do I just replace the control arms?
>
>Chuck Pierce
>90 200tq 20v Avant
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 13:56:37 -0600
From: "Bernstein, Jeff" <Jeff.Bernstein at pneumaticscale.com>
Subject: Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots
To: 'Chuck Pierce' <cpcycle at earthlink.net>
Cc: '200q20V mailing list' <200q20v at audifans.com>
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I was able to purchase the lower control arm boots for the ball joint from
Blau a few years ago so he may still have them available.
Jeff Bernstein
http://www.bernsteincars.8m.com
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 13:22:01 -0800
From: "Dr. Adam Gratz DO" <dradamgratz at hotmail.com>
Subject: Lower control arm ball joint boots
To: <200q20v at audifans.com>
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Crew:
I replaced the sway bar bushing with a universal (sized to the bar)
Polyurethane from Energy suspension. Great cheap upgrade. You will need a
drill press and some home depot stock flat steel or aluminum to make a plate
to ride above the bushing and through the stock bolts. Don't forget to
lock-tight the bolts. Don't make the plate to thick or you will need longer
bolts.
http://www.energysuspension.com/swaybb.html
They also make poly ball joint covers, which I used on my 2002tii.
http://www.energysuspension.com/tie_r.html
While I'm at it, A fellow at Ireland engineering in CA, made me an amazing
hollow front sway bar for my tii, which ran under the oil pan from control
arm to control arm and was a truly impressive improvement. The whole thing
was around $130,and weighted about 6 pounds.
Group Interest? Group buy?
Dr. Gratz
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:40:12 EST
From: ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com
Subject: Rear window seals for an Avant
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
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Hi guys,
Where do I go for new rear window seals for my 91 Avant? The original ones
are looking very bad and I would love to replace them.
The door seals front and rear are also showing their age.
Any BTDT's would be appreciated,
Shawn Olsen
Clarkston MI
91 200q20v avant 225K
95 S6 MTM 129K
96 A4 2.8q12v 109k
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:46:10 -0800
From: Chuck Pierce <cpcycle at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Lower control arm ball joint boots
Cc: 200 list <200q20v at www.audifans.com>
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Hey Gang
Thanks for all the information.
Chuck Pierce
91 200tq 20v Avant
Chuck Pierce wrote:
> I am replacing the sway bar bushings and the lower control bushings.
> Once I got every thing apart I noticed that the boots on the lower
> control arm ball joints are cracked.
> Can the boots be purchased separately. No I did not kill them taking
> it apart, the ball joints can out of the strut housing easily.
> Or do I just replace the control arms?
>
> Chuck Pierce
> 90 200tq 20v Avant
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:50:45 -0700
From: "Calvin & Diana Craig" <calvinlc at earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Questions regarding hesitation during
acceleration
To: <ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>,
<200q20v at audifans.com>
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I would check the coilpacks or POS. Is it related to boost only, or is it
MPH sensitive, how about does it do it more when cold or hot???
--Calvin
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Subject: [s-cars] Questions regarding hesitation during acceleration
Hi Guys,
I have two quick questions, but first a little background info:
Last week when driving on the express way I got on the throttle pretty hard
and felt a lot of hesitation. There was no sound (that I could hear) just
the
hesitation. I backed off and drove a steady 85 mph to my destination with no
problem. Opened the hood and noticed a half inch rip in the hose from the
Turbo
to the BPV etc..Great I thought and bought the hose. Well, I just installed
the new hose and took the car for a spin and it still hesitates once the
boost
rises. I double checked the clamps to know avail.
So here are my questions:
Will a bad O2 sensor make the car hesitate during heavy acceleration? (I
recall I had this problem with my 200 some years ago, but it is not that
fresh in
my mind.)
Where else would you suggest that I should be looking?
Thanks in advance,
Shawn Olsen
Clarkston, MI
95 S6 MTM
91 200q20v avant
96 A4 2.8q
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:15:03 -0700
From: steve marinelli <steve at k2exoman.com>
Subject: Front stock speaker sizes?
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
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My 200tq20v has the Bose audio system. I have heard that there are ten
speakers in this vehicle. Dash and Door components (separate woofers and
tweeters) as well as 6x9s in the rear. I am looking at replacing the Bozo
audio system entirely and am curious as to what the fornt speaker sizes
are. I have heard everywhere from 5 1/4" to 6 1/2", so what are they? How
deep are the stock locations? I'm looking at either Infinity, MB Quart or
Polk Momo components and I want to know what sizes work? Do any of you
have either of these, which sound better?
--
- Steve Marinelli
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 23:02:30 -0500
From: "Ingo Rautenberg" <IRautenberg at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Front stock speaker sizes?
To: <200q20v at audifans.com>, "steve marinelli" <steve at k2exoman.com>
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Steve,
The info you have is wrong. The Bose System as fitted in the '91 200q20v
and '90-94 V8 consists of only four full-range speakers:
Two approx 4" (proprietary Bose size with three mounting holes) -- one in
each front door -- and two 6 x 9's in the rear deck (even though the rear
deck grills look like 6"). The Dash mount speakers are 3.5" I believe
(haven't messed with them yet), but only the right front actually has a
speaker mounted there -- and it is only used for the hands-free function of
the Audi armrest analog Motorola Phone.
I'll e-mail you some info off list (as much has already been covered). If I
had to do it again, I'd probably go with MB Quart all around, though both of
the systems I installed sound much better than the Bose before it.
-Ingo
'91 200q20v...Slightly modified
'84 Urquattro
'91 v8q 5-speed w/ lots of mods :-)
http://hometown.aol.com/quattringo/index.html
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From: "steve marinelli" <steve at k2exoman.com>
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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:15 PM
Subject: Front stock speaker sizes?
> My 200tq20v has the Bose audio system. I have heard that there are ten
> speakers in this vehicle. Dash and Door components (separate woofers and
> tweeters) as well as 6x9s in the rear. I am looking at replacing the Bozo
> audio system entirely and am curious as to what the fornt speaker sizes
> are. I have heard everywhere from 5 1/4" to 6 1/2", so what are they? How
> deep are the stock locations? I'm looking at either Infinity, MB Quart or
> Polk Momo components and I want to know what sizes work? Do any of you
> have either of these, which sound better?
>
> --
> - Steve Marinelli
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