springs

Schaible, David David.Schaible at jrspharma.com
Thu Sep 7 12:52:09 EDT 2006


thats more like the list of old.....except for jerome notso sweet.......thanks for the input and experiences. my local mexican shop has advised they can put in a kickin' bouncing hydraulic setup. the auto is not that bad of shape..... i prolly will go with h&r and shims the koni adjustables in there are only a few years old......the h&r and boge setup i have in my urq is a little harsh but sure feels good in the corners. hopefully the avant comfort seats will prevent me from losing any more fillings

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.benz at charter.net] 
	Sent: Wed 9/6/2006 11:34 PM 
	To: andyschlueter  
	Cc: 200q20V mailing list 
	Subject: Re: springs
	
	

	Andy,
	
	By ³struts² you mean the shock inserts in the strut tower? I have Konis in
	mine but, IMO, Bilsteins are over damped for stock springs, thus not an
	optimum combination.
	
	Bernie 
	
	> From: "andyschlueter" <andyschlueter at 4techwork.com>
	
	> If you want stock hieght, go with a stock type V8 spring with new struts. I
	> hear it's a good ride with stocck struts. If it were me, I would just keep
	> the stock springs and drop in a nice set of struts bilstein HD or koni. I
	> rode in an avant with stock springs and bilstein hs's, what an awsome ride.
	>
	>
	> Andrew W. Schlueter
	> '90 Audi V8 Quattro
	> '90 Audi 200tq20v Avant (RIP)
	> www.westmotorsports.biz
	>
	>
	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-bounces at audifans.com] On
	> Behalf Of Jerome Sweet
	> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:20 PM
	> To: 200q20v at audifans.com
	> Subject: Re: springs
	>
	> If this guy is crying so much about how no one knows anything about springs,
	> why doesnt he go with coilovers? And why would you even let the suspension
	> become so fucked up in the first place?? Im sorry for being rude, but this
	> is sad.
	>
	> -Jerome
	>
	>
	>
	> On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:58:38 -0700, "Bernie Benz" <b.benz at charter.net>
	> said:
	>> SRH = Static Ride Height.
	>>
	>>> From: Kneale Brownson <kneale at coslink.net>
	>>> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:42:56 -0400
	>>> To: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
	>>> Subject: Re: springs
	>>>
	>>> So what is SRH?
	>>>
	>>> Regards, Kneale
	>>>
	>>>
	>>> At 01:13 PM 9/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:
	>>>> David,
	>>>>
	>>>> If you are looking for a higher spring rate, stiffer, you must
	>>>> change the spring. The spring rate does not change with age or use,
	>>>> but the SRH can change because of a stress relieving process. If
	>>>> you are complaining about the SRH and the original rate is OK, you
	>>>> can shim the spring (3 different thicknesses were available from
	>>>> Audi), or a spring shop can extend and retemper the spring.
	>>>>
	>>>> Bernie
	>>>>
	>>>>> From: "Schaible, David" <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com>
	>>>>>
	>>>>> http://www.autocarparts.com/parts/BG-Suspension/
	>>>>>
	>>>>> don't know anything about them....they claim to have an
	>>>>> application for
	>>>>> 91 200.  apparently noone has done anything other than h&r springs
	>>>>> or knows squat about the oem springs. I asked this question a
	>>>>> while ago and got zilch.  I was trying to track down this guy who
	>>>>> does custom springs, mostly race applications who can beat the
	>>>>> stealer price.........I have to do something soon.....my car bottoms
	> out with a load of groceries in
	>>>>> the back....the cart boy laughed at me!!!   Wellllll it's not that bad
	>>>>> but I can't load up for holiday and the ride quality is poor.
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>> _____
	>>>>>
	>>>>> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com]
	>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:28 PM
	>>>>> To: Schaible, David
	>>>>> Subject: Re: springs
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>> Who/what is b&g?
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>> Thanks,
	>>>>>
	>>>>> Ed
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
	>>>>> On 9/5/06, Schaible, David <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com> wrote:
	>>>>>
	>>>>> Help needed for spring upgrade.  My avant springs are toast, I
	>>>>> would go for h&r but don't want to lower the auto.....although now
	>>>>> it may actually raise the vehicle.....anyway.  factory springs are
	> like $600.
	>>>>> saw b&g springs for around $285, h&r $315.  can I add a spacer to
	>>>>> the spring perches?  Does anyone know of a different vehicle
	>>>>> spring that would work?  Does anyone know the the factory spring
	> specs?
	>>>>>
	>>>>>
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