springs

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Thu Sep 7 13:05:09 EDT 2006


Anybody who wants some Bilstien HD's can have mine for a small sum once I
pull them.  I think they suck.  I've got them in both my V8 5spd and my '91
Avant.  I've got some Koni Reds waiting to go into one of them, set at full
soft.  I've heard one dissenting opinion about the Konis, but I'm not sure
Boge TG is what I want either so I'll try the Konis.

Ed


On 9/7/06, Schaible, David <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com> wrote:
>
> thats more like the list of old.....except for jerome notso
> sweet.......thanks for the input and experiences. my local mexican shop has
> advised they can put in a kickin' bouncing hydraulic setup. the auto is not
> that bad of shape..... i prolly will go with h&r and shims the koni
> adjustables in there are only a few years old......the h&r and boge setup i
> have in my urq is a little harsh but sure feels good in the corners.
> hopefully the avant comfort seats will prevent me from losing any more
> fillings
>
>        -----Original Message-----
>        From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.benz at charter.net]
>        Sent: Wed 9/6/2006 11:34 PM
>        To: andyschlueter
>        Cc: 200q20V mailing list
>        Subject: Re: springs
>
>
>
>        Andy,
>
>        By ³struts² you mean the shock inserts in the strut tower? I have
> Konis in
>        mine but, IMO, Bilsteins are over damped for stock springs, thus
> not an
>        optimum combination.
>
>        Bernie
>
>        > From: "andyschlueter" <andyschlueter at 4techwork.com>
>
>        > If you want stock hieght, go with a stock type V8 spring with new
> struts. I
>        > hear it's a good ride with stocck struts. If it were me, I would
> just keep
>        > the stock springs and drop in a nice set of struts bilstein HD or
> koni. I
>        > rode in an avant with stock springs and bilstein hs's, what an
> awsome ride.
>        >
>        >
>        > Andrew W. Schlueter
>        > '90 Audi V8 Quattro
>        > '90 Audi 200tq20v Avant (RIP)
>        > www.westmotorsports.biz
>        >
>        >
>        > -----Original Message-----
>        > From: 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:
> 200q20v-bounces at audifans.com] On
>        > Behalf Of Jerome Sweet
>        > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:20 PM
>        > To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>        > Subject: Re: springs
>        >
>        > If this guy is crying so much about how no one knows anything
> about springs,
>        > why doesnt he go with coilovers? And why would you even let the
> suspension
>        > become so fucked up in the first place?? Im sorry for being rude,
> but this
>        > is sad.
>        >
>        > -Jerome
>        >
>        >
>        >
>        > On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:58:38 -0700, "Bernie Benz" <
> b.benz at charter.net>
>        > said:
>        >> SRH = Static Ride Height.
>        >>
>        >>> From: Kneale Brownson <kneale at coslink.net>
>        >>> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:42:56 -0400
>        >>> To: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
>        >>> Subject: Re: springs
>        >>>
>        >>> So what is SRH?
>        >>>
>        >>> Regards, Kneale
>        >>>
>        >>>
>        >>> At 01:13 PM 9/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>        >>>> David,
>        >>>>
>        >>>> If you are looking for a higher spring rate, stiffer, you must
>        >>>> change the spring. The spring rate does not change with age or
> use,
>        >>>> but the SRH can change because of a stress relieving process.
> If
>        >>>> you are complaining about the SRH and the original rate is OK,
> you
>        >>>> can shim the spring (3 different thicknesses were available
> from
>        >>>> Audi), or a spring shop can extend and retemper the spring.
>        >>>>
>        >>>> Bernie
>        >>>>
>        >>>>> From: "Schaible, David" <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> http://www.autocarparts.com/parts/BG-Suspension/
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> don't know anything about them....they claim to have an
>        >>>>> application for
>        >>>>> 91 200.  apparently noone has done anything other than h&r
> springs
>        >>>>> or knows squat about the oem springs. I asked this question a
>        >>>>> while ago and got zilch.  I was trying to track down this guy
> who
>        >>>>> does custom springs, mostly race applications who can beat
> the
>        >>>>> stealer price.........I have to do something soon.....my car
> bottoms
>        > out with a load of groceries in
>        >>>>> the back....the cart boy laughed at me!!!   Wellllll it's not
> that bad
>        >>>>> but I can't load up for holiday and the ride quality is poor.
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> _____
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com]
>        >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:28 PM
>        >>>>> To: Schaible, David
>        >>>>> Subject: Re: springs
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> Who/what is b&g?
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> Thanks,
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> Ed
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> On 9/5/06, Schaible, David <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com>
> wrote:
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>> Help needed for spring upgrade.  My avant springs are toast,
> I
>        >>>>> would go for h&r but don't want to lower the
> auto.....although now
>        >>>>> it may actually raise the vehicle.....anyway.  factory
> springs are
>        > like $600.
>        >>>>> saw b&g springs for around $285, h&r $315.  can I add a
> spacer to
>        >>>>> the spring perches?  Does anyone know of a different vehicle
>        >>>>> spring that would work?  Does anyone know the the factory
> spring
>        > specs?
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
>        >>>>>
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