Daytime running lights

John Tapp tappj at algonquincollege.com
Mon Apr 2 15:15:14 EDT 2007




I imported a 20v last summer - I used a module I picked up at CTC and set it up to feed the low beam headlights by splicing in just below the headlight switch under the steering wheel. Works by picking up a signal from the high tension wires turning on the headlights anytime the engine is running. Here's a link

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396673462&bmUID=1175541164941&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443278206&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true 

John-Paul Tapp

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Today's Topics:

   1.  (Eric Huppert)
   2. RE:  (Eric Huppert)
   3. RE: Daytime running lights for Canada import (Eric Huppert)
   4. Re: Springs revisited (again) (Bernie Benz)
   5. Re: Daytime running lights for Canada import (Geraint Lloyd)
   6. RE: Springs revisited (again) (Eric Huppert)
   7. Springs revisited (again) (Eric Huppert)
   8. old injectors (Brandon Rogers)
   9. Re: old injectors (Mike Pshenishny)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 12:43:11 -0400
From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
To: <quattro at audifans.com>, "200q20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
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Just sold my 200 20V to a Canadian father and son. (Nice first car for a
teenager!)

Needs to have DRL's for import to Canada. Told them I'd hook them up.
Thinking I'll use the parking lights in the headlights, probably use power
off ignition source (in relay box under kick panel). Already installed a
full size bulb (1156 or 7) and they're brighter..

Thoughts, or BTDT?

Eric



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 13:16:38 -0400
From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: RE: 
To: "John McMahon" <jfm at nts-online.net>
Cc: quattro at audifans.com, 200q20v <200q20v at audifans.com>
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John,

Just looked in the Bentley, seems like slightly different wiring between
U.S. and Canada... May be easier to use parking lights, but hoping someone
who's BTDT can shed some "light" (pun intended)

Will have to explore the diagrams a little closer and see what I can figure
out!

Thanks, Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: John McMahon [mailto:jfm at nts-online.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:17 PM
To: Eric Huppert
Subject: Re:


I believe that even the early 1990s vintage Audis came with provisions for
DRLs.  My '90 Coupe quattro 20V
has them listed in the fuse/relay box.
John McMahon
Abilene, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
To: <quattro at audifans.com>; "200q20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:43 AM


> Just sold my 200 20V to a Canadian father and son. (Nice first car for a
> teenager!)
>
> Needs to have DRL's for import to Canada. Told them I'd hook them up.
> Thinking I'll use the parking lights in the headlights, probably use power
> off ignition source (in relay box under kick panel). Already installed a
> full size bulb (1156 or 7) and they're brighter..
>
> Thoughts, or BTDT?
>
> Eric
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 13:18:58 -0400
From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Daytime running lights for Canada import
Cc: quattro at audifans.com, 200q20v <200q20v at audifans.com>
Message-ID: <JMEMJCJGJPAPJKLMIMIIOEEHCEAA.ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
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John,

Just looked in the Bentley, seems like slightly different wiring between
U.S. and Canada... May be easier to use parking lights, but hoping someone
who's BTDT can shed some "light" (pun intended)

Will have to explore the diagrams a little closer and see what I can figure
out!

Thanks, Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: John McMahon [mailto:jfm at nts-online.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:17 PM
To: Eric Huppert
Subject: Re:


I believe that even the early 1990s vintage Audis came with provisions for
DRLs.  My '90 Coupe quattro 20V
has them listed in the fuse/relay box.
John McMahon
Abilene, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
To: <quattro at audifans.com>; "200q20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:43 AM


> Just sold my 200 20V to a Canadian father and son. (Nice first car for a
> teenager!)
>
> Needs to have DRL's for import to Canada. Told them I'd hook them up.
> Thinking I'll use the parking lights in the headlights, probably use power
> off ignition source (in relay box under kick panel). Already installed a
> full size bulb (1156 or 7) and they're brighter..
>
> Thoughts, or BTDT?
>
> Eric
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 12:59:07 -0700
From: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
Subject: Re: Springs revisited (again)
To: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
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Eric, What's happening with you on this thread?

Bernie


Eric,
One more point. If you lower the 200 beyond the original SRH you will  
be plagued with excessive negative camber.
Bernie

On Mar 29, 2007, at 7:20 AM, Eric Huppert wrote:

> Okay Gents, this is always a hot topic, yet I haven't really  
> figured out a
> solution!
>
> Want to get springs for my 200 20V that DON'T lower it. Living in  
> upstate
> NY, (not in suburbia) I really want to keep my ground clearance for  
> the
> occasional snow storms (2 times 2 footers this year). Springs I  
> have are
> somewhat beat, little wishy washy in road dips etc, and don't  
> believe it's
> the struts. Going to be installing a tower brace, tires, and  
> alignment, so
> figure it's now, or way later. Would obviously do struts if replacing
> springs
Eric, Springs don't "get beat" with useage. The spring rate does not  
change, unless they break. Only the SRH changes because of time and  
load related stress relieving. This SRH reduction can easily be  
compensated for by shimming, adding rubber washers to the original  
shim. Struts do wear out, the rebound damping being the critical  
factor. An underdamped  rebound system will overshoot  the return to  
SRH, with tires tending to bounce off the pavement.  So, change the  
springs only if you wish to move to a different spring rate. Do  
change your shocks but they 2must match to the spring rate, over  
damped is not good either.

Bernie
>
> Jim Rose had suggested possibly using S6 springs. Anyone have specs  
> for 200
> 20v vs. S6 springs? Have surfed quite a bit, haven't found anything  
> on stock
> or aftermarket spring specs. Would like a little stiffer, same  
> height, or
> close to it. Could possibly trim springs down without affecting  
> tempering
> (cut-off wheel, lots of cool water) if needed?
>
> Saw a set of S6 H&R's on the MP, maybe wouldn't drop 200 as much  
> due to
> weight difference?
>
> Thoughts? (okay, flame away!)
>
> Eric
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:17:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Geraint Lloyd <geraintlloyd_qc at yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Daytime running lights for Canada import
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
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Eric

Brady has a btdt on his 20v avant, i'll either get him to write in or
ask him what he did.
I have an 89 200 tqa  that someone else imported from arizona
and an 87 golf 2 gti that i imported from the UK

neither has drls. strictly speaking with Transport Canada if the vehicle
is over 15 years old then it doesn't need modification eg: i have no cat
on the golf 'cos the uk didn't mandate them until 96. the provinces are
supposed to follow this.

When the golf was inspected in quebec, the inspector failed it because
it had no DRLs, but the inspection station manager pointed to him that
the car was over 15 years old and didn't need them so made the inspector
re-do the inspection report.

I got the impression that the provincial boys like to fail cars because
they get extra revenue when you come back for a retest. the fact that
the golf failed early on in the test due to lack of DRLs meant that the
inspector didn't 'find' anything else to fail (the car had passed it's 
french safety test a month or so before so was fine...).

moral based on experience and advice from pal who imports MGs from all
over the place:
get the car tested as is. you will either get lucky and it will pass or
you will have a list of things to do and a retest. if the only thing to
do is hook up the dlrs then it could be worse.....

Geraint




Eric Huppert wrote:
> John,
>
> Just looked in the Bentley, seems like slightly different wiring between
> U.S. and Canada... May be easier to use parking lights, but hoping someone
> who's BTDT can shed some "light" (pun intended)
>
> Will have to explore the diagrams a little closer and see what I can figure
> out!
>
> Thanks, Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McMahon [mailto:jfm at nts-online.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:17 PM
> To: Eric Huppert
> Subject: Re:
>
>
> I believe that even the early 1990s vintage Audis came with provisions for
> DRLs.  My '90 Coupe quattro 20V
> has them listed in the fuse/relay box.
> John McMahon
> Abilene, Texas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>; "200q20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:43 AM
>
>
>   
>> Just sold my 200 20V to a Canadian father and son. (Nice first car for a
>> teenager!)
>>
>> Needs to have DRL's for import to Canada. Told them I'd hook them up.
>> Thinking I'll use the parking lights in the headlights, probably use power
>> off ignition source (in relay box under kick panel). Already installed a
>> full size bulb (1156 or 7) and they're brighter..
>>
>> Thoughts, or BTDT?
>>
>> Eric
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:12:47 -0400
From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Springs revisited (again)
To: "Bernie Benz" <b.benz at charter.net>
Cc: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
Message-ID: <JMEMJCJGJPAPJKLMIMIIGEEPCEAA.ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
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Bernie,

Nothing happening yet! I usually like to do my research BEFORE I make a
change, never mind the fact I'm getting married in two weeks (again!),
trying to sell my house, and just sold the other 200 20V which I'm getting
ready for Canadian import!

My point of reference for "handling" was my first 87 5000cs. Cornered very
flat and rode decent. the 200 10v after that I had installed completely new
suspension: struts/strut bearings, control arms, sub fame bushings, tie
rods, rear links, etc, etc. That car felt the same as my 20v, large road
dips at speed tended to create a lot of front end dive, and also a good
amount of body lean while cornering. Now wondering if the 87 had V8 springs
are something similar as it wasn't lowered, felt a lot better, and did come
from a past employee of Shokan.

Had emailed a lister who had advertised a set of S6 H&R's on the market
place. Had hoped to get some dimensions from the  S6 H&R's to see unloaded
height difference between them and stock... but seeing as no reply with two
messages sent I'll assume they're gone, or he didn't want to really sell
them?

Will keep the list posted as this project progresses!

Cheers, Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.benz at charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 3:59 PM
To: Eric Huppert
Cc: 200q20V mailing list
Subject: Re: Springs revisited (again)


Eric, What's happening with you on this thread?

Bernie


Eric,
One more point. If you lower the 200 beyond the original SRH you will
be plagued with excessive negative camber.
Bernie

On Mar 29, 2007, at 7:20 AM, Eric Huppert wrote:

> Okay Gents, this is always a hot topic, yet I haven't really
> figured out a
> solution!
>
> Want to get springs for my 200 20V that DON'T lower it. Living in
> upstate
> NY, (not in suburbia) I really want to keep my ground clearance for
> the
> occasional snow storms (2 times 2 footers this year). Springs I
> have are
> somewhat beat, little wishy washy in road dips etc, and don't
> believe it's
> the struts. Going to be installing a tower brace, tires, and
> alignment, so
> figure it's now, or way later. Would obviously do struts if replacing
> springs
Eric, Springs don't "get beat" with useage. The spring rate does not
change, unless they break. Only the SRH changes because of time and
load related stress relieving. This SRH reduction can easily be
compensated for by shimming, adding rubber washers to the original
shim. Struts do wear out, the rebound damping being the critical
factor. An underdamped  rebound system will overshoot  the return to
SRH, with tires tending to bounce off the pavement.  So, change the
springs only if you wish to move to a different spring rate. Do
change your shocks but they 2must match to the spring rate, over
damped is not good either.

Bernie
>
> Jim Rose had suggested possibly using S6 springs. Anyone have specs
> for 200
> 20v vs. S6 springs? Have surfed quite a bit, haven't found anything
> on stock
> or aftermarket spring specs. Would like a little stiffer, same
> height, or
> close to it. Could possibly trim springs down without affecting
> tempering
> (cut-off wheel, lots of cool water) if needed?
>
> Saw a set of S6 H&R's on the MP, maybe wouldn't drop 200 as much
> due to
> weight difference?
>
> Thoughts? (okay, flame away!)
>
> Eric
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:31:31 -0400
From: "Eric Huppert" <ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Springs revisited (again)
To: "200q20v" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Message-ID: <JMEMJCJGJPAPJKLMIMIICEFACEAA.ehuppert at hvc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Bernie,

Larry has also offered a set of S6 stockers, may be a option also. Need to
figure out static height to see what the difference is.

Larry, could you measure the unloaded height? Going to VW parts today, can
measure some 10v springs and compare...

Eric



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:20:50 -0600
From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
Subject: old injectors
To: "'200q20v'" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Message-ID: <003701c7753a$81aa8ee0$6f01a8c0 at terrix11>
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Guys-
whats the best way to test the injectors to see if they have a proper
spray pattern?
Mine have probably 185k miles on them and my car seems to be running
rich - have replaced 02 sensor and coolant temp sensor in back of head.
It has been suggested to me that maybe the spray pattern is clumped up
and I'm getting an incomplete burn...seems logical.
 
Any recommendations on a place to send them for rehab - ISTR RC
Engineering...
 
Thanks-
 
Brandon
'84 urquattro 20Vt
'01.5 S4
'98 A4 1.8Tq
sold
 
 


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:48:45 -0400
From: "Mike Pshenishny" <r3dmist at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: old injectors
To: brogers at terrix.com
Cc: 200q20v <200q20v at audifans.com>
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I've had a few sets of 944 turbo injectors clean/blueprinted by Witch
Hunter.  $17 a piece & their website is:
www.witchhunter.com
Pretty quick turnaround, I'd definitely use them again and recommend them.

-Mike

On 4/2/07, Brandon Rogers <brogers at terrix.com> wrote:
>
> Guys-
> whats the best way to test the injectors to see if they have a proper
> spray pattern?
> Mine have probably 185k miles on them and my car seems to be running
> rich - have replaced 02 sensor and coolant temp sensor in back of head.
> It has been suggested to me that maybe the spray pattern is clumped up
> and I'm getting an incomplete burn...seems logical.
>
> Any recommendations on a place to send them for rehab - ISTR RC
> Engineering...
>
> Thanks-
>
> Brandon
> '84 urquattro 20Vt
> '01.5 S4
> '98 A4 1.8Tq
> sold
>
>
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