UFO Brakes

[Taka Mizutani]

I'm not complaining about the brake setup and yes, the brake ducts are
functional.

I had issues with heat and the UFOs on the street- there was no way I was
taking the car with UFOs to the track.

Mount directionally vaned rotors backwards and they definitely don't cool as
well.

Taka


On 10/3/07, Schaible, David <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com> wrote:
>
>  Did you have intact brake ducts for the ufo at the track??........ I
> never heard anyone ever complain about the 993 setup….except maybe the
> price  ;-)
>
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> *From:* Taka Mizutani [mailto:t44tqtro at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:32 PM
> *To:* Schaible, David
> *Cc:* mike claire; Richard Harris; 200q20v at audifans.com
> *Subject:* Re: UFO Brakes
>
>
>
> Well, I wasn't talking about G60s, talking about UFO vs. 993tt
> caliper/rotor setup.
>
> The much larger heatsink of the 993tt rotor and the superior cooling of
> the rotor design lend it to better longevity under extreme use ( i.e.
> track use).
>
> I may have overstated things- it's not that you can't drive the car on the
> track with UFOs- far from it. You have to do a lot more temperature
> management of the brakes if you're using UFOs vs. 993tt setup.
>
> I'm far from an expert driver and my hamfisted antics at the Glen didn't
> faze my brake setup- it is my mechanic's fault that the directionally vaned
> rotors were mounted backwards and it's my fault that I was using street pads
> at the track, but that happened in the third session of the 2nd day, which
> isn't too shabby. You definitely cannot do that with UFOs, that's what I'm
> trying to get at. Repeated braking from 135 to 65 is not easy on the brakes.
>
>
> Taka
>
>  On 10/3/07, *Schaible, David* <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com> wrote:
>
> I have two avants one w/ g60s and one w/ ufos....i personally think the
> g60s are a huge downgrade in all aspects of braking....i did not do side
> by side braking distance tests so it's just seat of the pants.....
>
> I would track the car w/ the ufos, and if they don't hold up do the
> upgrade, not a big market for used ufo components in the usa so give em
> a beating and see if they can come back for more!!
>
> taka says they won't.....alot depends on the nut that holds the steering
> wheel and track.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike claire [mailto:mike.claire at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:46 PM
> To: Richard Harris
> Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: UFO Brakes
>
> I've had a '93 S4 with G60s and EBC Greens for a few years.  They're in
> perfect operating condition, fresh bleed with Super Blue.  I don't track
> the
> car.
>
> I just bought a '91 200 20v with UFOs in perfect operating condition.
> The
> rotors are pretty new and are not warped in the least.  I don't know
> what
> the pads are, OEM stock I assume.  Fresh brake job, also with a Super
> Blue
> bleed.
>
> The difference in braking between the 2 cars is vast.  The 200 is just
> fantastic.  I thought the S4 was fine until I drove the 200.  The feel,
> strength, and modularity (is that a word?) is so much better in the 200.
>
> I can't attest to fade resistance, but I bet the 200 would beat the S4
> hands
> down.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> On 10/3/07, Richard Harris <rnharris at bellsouth.net > wrote:
> >
> > I realize that this is old news for some you...I'm debating whether or
> not
> > to upgrade from UFO brakes to S4/S6 struts and  993TT calipers and
> rotors.
> > The vehicle will primarily be used as a track car.  For those of you
> that
> > have tracked UFO equipped vehicles, is the caliper/rotor combination
> up to
> > the task? I understand that UFO rotors a costly, but that's still less
> > expensive than new struts, Big Reds, Rotors and pads.  As for pads,
> > Carbotech, www.ctbrakes.com still provides them for the 200.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Richard Harris
> >
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