UFO Brakes

Wed Oct 3 13:09:28 PDT 2007

I'm with David.  I have 2 V8s with UFOs and one with G60s with maxed
out rotors and pads.  The UFOs are just better.  On the 5spd, I have
fresh rotors and Mintex pads all around and towed a 2k pound trailer
from LA to CO and never felt any concern about stopping.  I haven't
tracked it but I would not hesitate to do so.

It's all very subjective.  Are you going to a driver's school type of
event or on an open day or will you be competing?  What's you level?
How aggressive do you expect to be?  How aggressive do you expect to
be?

I would not automatically drop a couple grand upgrading the brakes
before you know how the UFOs will handle it.

Ed

On 10/3/07, Schaible, David <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com> wrote:
> Did you have intact brake ducts for the ufo at the track??........ I
> never heard anyone ever complain about the 993 setup....except maybe the
> price  ;-)
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> From: Taka Mizutani [mailto:t44tqtro at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:32 PM
> To: Schaible, David
> Cc: mike claire; Richard Harris; 200q20v at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: UFO Brakes
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> Well, I wasn't talking about G60s, talking about UFO vs. 993tt
> caliper/rotor setup.
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> The much larger heatsink of the 993tt rotor and the superior cooling of
> the rotor design lend it to better longevity under extreme use ( i.e.
> track use).
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> I may have overstated things- it's not that you can't drive the car on
> the track with UFOs- far from it. You have to do a lot more temperature
> management of the brakes if you're using UFOs vs. 993tt setup.
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> I'm far from an expert driver and my hamfisted antics at the Glen didn't
> faze my brake setup- it is my mechanic's fault that the directionally
> vaned rotors were mounted backwards and it's my fault that I was using
> street pads at the track, but that happened in the third session of the
> 2nd day, which isn't too shabby. You definitely cannot do that with
> UFOs, that's what I'm trying to get at. Repeated braking from 135 to 65
> is not easy on the brakes.
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> Taka
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> On 10/3/07, Schaible, David <David.Schaible at jrspharma.com> wrote:
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> I have two avants one w/ g60s and one w/ ufos....i personally think the
> g60s are a huge downgrade in all aspects of braking....i did not do side
> by side braking distance tests so it's just seat of the pants.....
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> I would track the car w/ the ufos, and if they don't hold up do the
> upgrade, not a big market for used ufo components in the usa so give em
> a beating and see if they can come back for more!!
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> taka says they won't.....alot depends on the nut that holds the steering
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> wheel and track.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike claire [mailto:mike.claire at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:46 PM
> To: Richard Harris
> Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: UFO Brakes
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> I've had a '93 S4 with G60s and EBC Greens for a few years.  They're in
> perfect operating condition, fresh bleed with Super Blue.  I don't track
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> the
> car.
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> I just bought a '91 200 20v with UFOs in perfect operating condition.
> The
> rotors are pretty new and are not warped in the least.  I don't know
> what
> the pads are, OEM stock I assume.  Fresh brake job, also with a Super
> Blue
> bleed.
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> The difference in braking between the 2 cars is vast.  The 200 is just
> fantastic.  I thought the S4 was fine until I drove the 200.  The feel,
> strength, and modularity (is that a word?) is so much better in the 200.
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> I can't attest to fade resistance, but I bet the 200 would beat the S4
> hands
> down.
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> Mike
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> On 10/3/07, Richard Harris <rnharris at bellsouth.net > wrote:
> >
> > I realize that this is old news for some you...I'm debating whether or
> not
> > to upgrade from UFO brakes to S4/S6 struts and  993TT calipers and
> rotors.
> > The vehicle will primarily be used as a track car.  For those of you
> that
> > have tracked UFO equipped vehicles, is the caliper/rotor combination
> up to
> > the task? I understand that UFO rotors a costly, but that's still less
> > expensive than new struts, Big Reds, Rotors and pads.  As for pads,
> > Carbotech, www.ctbrakes.com still provides them for the 200.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Richard Harris
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