favorite - strut/shock/spring combo?

robert weinberg centaurus3200 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 10 09:26:01 PDT 2008


ah damping - well no one said i had much lernin' ;-)


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: favorite - strut/shock/spring combo?
> To: centaurus3200 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "200q20V mailing list" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 6:46 AM
> Displeased? No, just bowing out of an overly worn thread.
> 
> Dampening means to moisten. Damping is the friction applied
> to a  
> resonant spring / mass system.
> 
> 
> On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:12 PM, robert weinberg wrote:
> 
> > i'm confused - why are you displeased?
> >
> > i did listen to you - i'm no longer looking at
> konis and H&R  
> > springs - which would make the car overly aggressive
> (as my SHO  
> > was). i'm researching used 1992 URS4 springs or V8
> springs. the  
> > reason i mention bilsteins sports - is because they
> are much  
> > cheaper than konis. boge are the same price virtually
> as bilsteins  
> > - and are close to stock in dampening, no?
> >
> > i believe you are saying that even with URS4 springs,
> the bilsteins  
> > have too much rebound unless i go with a much more
> aggressive  
> > spring, like H&R or Eibach? and then the car would
> ride like a  
> > rickshaw?
> I’m saying no such thing! I have no idea what you mean by
> a more  
> aggressive spring. Shocks don’t have rebound, they
> control rebound.  
> For a given unsprung weight, the shock must be matched to
> the spring  
> rate. This match, “critical damping” is that in which
> the unsprung  
> weight returns to its SRH at zero velocity in the shortest
> possible  
> time. In an under damped system the weight overshoots the
> SRH and  
> bounces the wheel off the pavement. In an over damped
> system the  
> wheel is slow to return to SRH and thus the system is ill
> prepared to  
> receive the next bump in a timely manner (that Bilstein
> feel). More  
> theory than you ever wanted to know, or are capable of
> applying?
> 
> Bernie
> >
> > Robby
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bernie Benz
> <b.benz at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
> >> Subject: Re: favorite - strut/shock/spring combo?
> >> To: centaurus3200 at yahoo.com
> >> Cc: "200q20V mailing list"
> <200q20v at audifans.com>
> >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:30 PM
> >> Not so, Robby! Apparently you don’t believe or
> understand
> >> a thing
> >> that I’ve added to this thread. You are polling
> for
> >> fellow non
> >> believers. You want it all! A non believer in
> simple
> >> physics, but
> >> money can buy everything! Go of it, boy.
> >>
> >> Bernie
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 9, 2008, at 5:50 PM, robert weinberg wrote:
> >>
> >>> very true bernie,
> >>>
> >>> i guess my thing is i need a poll of people
> and their
> >> experiences.
> >>> bilsteins are a fair amount cheaper than
> konis. if i
> >> can get
> >>> acceptable ride and still be able to joyfully
> fling it
> >> around with
> >>> bilsteins and V8 springs compared to blowing
> $789 for
> >> konis and H&R
> >>> springs, i'm all for it.
> >>>
> >>> again, i MAY track the car at some point -
> like once
> >> just to see
> >>> how it does - but it's a big ass sedan,
> it's
> >> not a track car. it's
> >>> meant to tear up the highway and the
> occasional
> >> mountain road.
> >>>
> >>> Robby
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
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