Now Yes Start - more info due to recurrence

[Kenneth Keith]

200q20v'ers,

Well it did it to me again today after work.  Same symptoms, no check engine
light, and cranking with no catching.  This time I checked for spark and
there was none.  I did get it started and I believe I found the problem.
The "Motor" fuse was *dirty* and had a bad connection (the "Moteur" fuse was
okay and provides different symptoms when it's open/missing/dirty).

So when I got home I filed the blades to clean it up, and I'm confident that
I've rectified the problem (wow, tempting fate, huh?).  I did an experiment
and sure enough when that fuse it out, the same symptoms occure.  When the
"Moteur" fuse (rearmost one, in other words, I don't have the fuse position
number handy) is out, it's different symptoms, the check engine light does
work, but it doesn't start.

I can only conclude that when I went through all the fuses, pulling and
reinstalling them, that the "Motor" fuse ended up with a dirty section in
the connection that was only randomly good for a few starts.

Quoting myself:

"WTF!  The car wouldn't start!  It would only crank.  The check engine light
doesn't come on any more either, with either of my ECUs.  I checked the
Motor Moteur fuses and they are intact, as if fuse 13 for the fuel pump.
Earlier today I unplugged and checked every fuse and made sure they were all
the right amperage, but the car ran after that."
Cheers,

Kenneth
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 2:45 PM, <rbade12 at aol.com> wrote:

> Kenneth,
>
>  It is a bit puzzling that the pieces of the puzzle don't add up, the check
> engine light and the fuel filter. Hopefully it's one of those, "well it's
> working, not going to think about it" deals! Let us know how behaves on the
> test run.
>
> Good luck
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Keith <auditude at gmail.com>
> To: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 2:46 pm
> Subject: Re: Now Yes Start
>
> Ok, so the new fuel filter is in.  I check for spark and have spark.  So I
>
> tried to start it again and it starts and I have a check engine light.  I
>
> pull codes and get 4444.  I turn it off and restart fine, and I notice that
>
> the fuel pump actually doesn't make a noise until it's cranking, but the
>
> clicking I heard before, which must not be the FP relay after all.
>
>
> Hmm.  I guess it's off for a hopefully 1.8bar test drive, AAA Plus card and
>
> cell phone in hand (and my FP relay jumper and another FP relay).
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Kenneth
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Kenneth Keith <auditude at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Update:  Still not starting.  I tried jumping the FP relay and the pump
>
> > does buzz like it used to, however doing that and cranking doesn't start
>
> > it.  I also checked the distributor and it still spins and while it's a
>
> > little sloppy it doesn't appear the gear is broken.  I'm in the process of
>
> > changing the fuel filter, and then I'll try maybe swapping in some different
>
> > flywheel timing sensors.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Kenneth
>
> >
>
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