Now Yes Start - more info due to recurrence

rbade12 at aol.com rbade12 at aol.com
Wed Nov 26 13:52:46 PST 2008


 Ah jeez dude, I think saying something like that puts everyone reading your posts at risk.....I'm going to run backwards around my car holding the 3 Bentley's chanting something in German....after four years of German 30+ years ago the best I can do is count, so that's what I'll do

Glad you got it diagnosed...funny how it turns out to be the simplest of remedies many times.

Happy Thanksgiving all!

Bob



I've rectified the problem (wow, tempting fate, huh?)


 


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Keith <auditude at gmail.com>
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
Sent: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: Now Yes Start - more info due to recurrence










200q20v'ers,

Well it did it to me again today after work.  Same symptoms, no check engine
light, and cranking with no catching.  This time I checked for spark and
there was none.  I did get it started and I believe I found the problem.
The "Motor" fuse was *dirty* and had a bad connection (the "Moteur" fuse was
okay and provides different symptoms when it's open/missing/dirty).

So when I got home I filed the blades to clean it up, and I'm confident that
I've rectified the problem (wow, tempting fate, huh?).  I did an experiment
and sure enough when that fuse it out, the same symptoms occure.  When the
"Moteur" fuse (rearmost one, in other words, I don't have the fuse position
number handy) is out, it's different symptoms, the check engine light does
work, but it doesn't start.

I can only conclude that when I went through all the fuses, pulling and
reinstalling them, that the "Motor" fuse ended up with a dirty section in
the connection that was only randomly good for a few starts.

Quoting myself:

"WTF!  The car wouldn't start!  It would only crank.  The check engine light
doesn't come on any more either, with either of my ECUs.  I checked the
Motor Moteur fuses and they are intact, as if fuse 13 for the fuel pump.
Earlier today I unplugged and checked every fuse and made sure they were all
the right amperage, but the car ran after that."
Cheers,

Kenneth
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 2:45 PM, <rbade12 at aol.com> wrote:

> Kenneth,
>
>  It is a bit puzzling that the pieces of the puzzle don't add up, the check
> engine light and the fuel filter. Hopefully it's one of those, "well it's
> working, not going to think about it" deals! Let us know how behaves on the
> test run.
>
> Good luck
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Keith <auditude at gmail.com>
> To: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 2:46 pm
> Subject: Re: Now Yes Start
>
> Ok, so the new fuel filter is in.  I check for spark and have spark.  So I
>
> tried to start it again and it starts and I have a check engine light.  I
>
> pull codes and get 4444.  I turn it off and restart fine, and I notice that
>
> the fuel pump actually doesn't make a noise until it's cranking, but the
>
> clicking I heard before, which must not be the FP relay after all.
>
>
> Hmm.  I guess it's off for a hopefully 1.8bar test drive, AAA Plus card and
>
> cell phone in hand (and my FP relay jumper and another FP relay).
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Kenneth
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Kenneth Keith <auditude at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Update:  Still not starting.  I tried jumping the FP relay and the pump
>
> > does buzz like it used to, however doing that and cranking doesn't start
>
> > it.  I also checked the distributor and it still spins and while it's a
>
> > little sloppy it doesn't appear the gear is broken.  I'm in the process of
>
> > changing the fuel filter, and then I'll try maybe swapping in some different
>
> > flywheel timing sensors.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Kenneth
>
> >
>
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