200Q Clutch Slave Cyl Same As V8Q?

[Bernie Benz]

2Your right , Dave!
So, admit defeet,  Ben!
If you can’t find, fabricate and install the necessary universal  
stretch push rod, suggest that he, the owner, scrap out the project  
to this list. Others then will be able to further screw up the project.

Bernie

On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Dave Defferding wrote:

> ?Hi again Ben,
>
> Aha, not your own car--that's a different story.  One must be  
> cautious then, as you are assuming responsibility for "doing it  
> right".  You can experiment on your own stuff, but not on other's  
> cars-- at least not without their permission.
> Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Swann" <benswann at verizon.net>
> To: "'Dave Defferding'" <mstrblastr at comcast.net>
> Cc: "'Bernie Benz'" <b.benz at charter.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:37 PM
> Subject: RE: 200Q Clutch Slave Cyl Same As V8Q?
>
>
> I considered this, but would prefer to use the proper part or at  
> least verify the
> difference.  We can assume there are different rods - they just pop  
> out, and I have
> received new slaves without rods.   Then it would be good to simply  
> get one for a V8
> transmission.
>
> I would like to confirm that this is the case - that the V8  
> actuator rod is longer than
> the 200Q and by how much.
>
> Concievably the release lever may have bent on install, or I used  
> the wrong parts or
> something else.  I'd rather not pull the trans again (3X already),  
> but don't want to
> cause a problem with a workaround that might come back to haunt me,  
> especially since
> this is not my car.  Easier to pull the tran now than to finish the  
> install and have it
> come back to me later.
>
> Does anyone have a V8 slave cylinder rod they can send me, or at  
> least to measure and
> see if it is longer than for  the 200 Q?
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Defferding [mailto:mstrblastr at comcast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:03 PM
> To: Ben Swann
> Cc: Bernie Benz
> Subject: Re: 200Q Clutch Slave Cyl Same As V8Q?
>
> ?If the slave is working properly, Bernie's suggestion may be the  
> simplest solution.
> Tape/epoxy a block to the release lever to test and if it works ok,  
> make up an
> appropriate longer rod.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernie Benz" <b.benz at charter.net>
> To: "Ben Swann" <benswann at verizon.net>
> Cc: "200q20V mailing list" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: 200Q Clutch Slave Cyl Same As V8Q?
>
>
> Just make a ½” longer rod and slap it in!
>
> Bernie
>
> On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Ben Swann wrote:
>
>> I did not get a response on this earlier, I checked ETKA and  
>> confirmed
>> the same part no.
>> for slave cyl. for both V8 quattro transmission and the 200 Quattro.
>> So that is apparently not the problem.  4A0 721 261 is used for both
>> transmissions  according to my version of ETKA.
>>
>> Bleeding makes no difference.  The problem is that the rod does not
>> apply pressure against the release lever even when at its fully
>> extended length.
>> I tried a few new
>> ones for comparison.  When the rod is fully extended, the rod is just
>> shy of touching the divot in the lever.
>>
>> Is there a different rod that is not specified in the ETKA  - that is
>> the V8 rod is longer by about 12- 15mm by my estimation?
>>
>> I'm not sure what else it could be - I used a new release lever,
>> release bearing, as well as 200Q/3b disk and pressure plate.  The  
>> only
>> other thing I can think might make a
>> difference is   Clutch Operating Lever (release lever) 016 141 719A
>> called for on 200Q
>> is I thnk what I used, but did not thnk about it as the time.  The
>> divot on the lever is in the correct spot for the rod to hit.
>>
>> I'd really appreciate any advice on this.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: Ben Swann [mailto:benswann at verizon.net]
>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:20 PM
>> To: 200q20v at audifans.com; quattro at audifans.com
>> Cc: 'Ben Swann'
>> Subject: 200Q Clutch Slave Cyl Same As V8Q?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to determine if the clutch slave cylinder that is in the
>> 200 Quattro should work OK for the V8 trans I'm installing.
>>
>> I have the trans in.  The slave was never disconnected, so
>> theoretically should not need to be bled.  The slave cyl. Did not fit
>> quite as tightly in the bore as otheres I've seen, but micrometer
>> meaurements were very close between the hole size and the diameter of
>> the slave.  I compared to several other slave cyl. I had NIB and all
>> were similar and had the mounting hole as apposed to the earlier 5kt
>> units that had the roll pin.
>>
>> So I went with the 200 one that was in the car.  Now the trans is
>> bolted up to the engine, there is no real pressure exerted via clutch
>> pedal, as if the rod is not hitting the throwout lever.  I did note
>> when installing the slave, that you could push it in another 1/2 to
>> 3/4" past the mounting hole before it touched the divot in the lever.
>> I presumed that distance would be taken up once the trans was in  
>> place
>> and release bearing pressing against the pressure plate.
>>
>> Is the Rod on the V8 tranmission slave longer?  Should this be just a
>> matter of bleeding?
>>
>> Is the V8 slave different in more than just the number?
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> 200q20v mailing list http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/200q20v
>
> _______________________________________________
> 200q20v mailing list http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/200q20v
>
>
>
>