[A4] Noob ?s about A4 2.8 "MY 2 CENTS"

[Brian White]

You love Quattro.  It just happens to have a TORSEN which is just one of many ways a differential 
can work.

People seem to think TORSEN is what makes Audis all that...it's not.  It's just part of the diff 
system.

In fact, my Miata has a TORSEN in it and it makes it a handful in the rain. <grin>



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From: Rocky Mullin <caliban at sharon.net>
To: Quincy Chiang <b5quattro at shaw.ca>, audidoodie at comcast.net
Sent: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:36:45 -0800
Subject: Re: RE: [A4] Noob ?s about A4 2.8  "MY 2 CENTS"

> i ripped my A4 up highway 1 from cambria to carmel in the rain
> today, what a blast!  i LOVE TORSEN.
> 
> At 9:42 PM -0700 12/26/04, Quincy Chiang wrote:
> >When I went to my first ACNA driving school with my 1.8tq 2 summers 
> >ago, the local dealer brought in a few cars for us to try on the 
> >track (it's a fairly short track).  I drove a TT 225 (no mods) for 3 
> >laps, it was lighter and a bit quicker than my stock A4 but somehow 
> >it didn't feel as secure as the A4, and I think it's partly due to 
> >the haldex system.  I felt like the power was being shifted from the 
> >front to rear in a somewhat choppy manner, whereas in the torsen 
> >system it's completely seemless.
> >
> >Quincy
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Gordie's Garage <audidoodie at comcast.net>
> >Date: Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:23 am
> >Subject: RE: [A4] Noob ?s about A4 2.8  "MY 2 CENTS"
> >
> >>  Not sure about the lighter weight (probably), but it is what has
> >>  to be used
> >>  for a transverse mounted motor.  The Haldex is a viscous coupling,
> >>  ie; it
> >>  requires slippage in the front wheels for power to be put to the rear
> >>  wheels, IOW, a front driver most of the time.  Prob is that it is
> >>  a reactive
> >>  system as opposed to the more proactive torsen.  I worked at an
> >>  Audi dealer
> >>  for 3 yrs and in the winter we would sometimes have to push a TT,
> >>  but never
> >>  a sedan, with both being AWD.  The difference is noticeable on a
> >>  track too.
> >>  To me, too much understeer has to be introduced before rear
> >>  provides any
> >>  assist, then not enough.  Sedan (torsen) is relatively easy to put
> >>  into a 4
> >>  wheel drift.
> >>
> >>  Though, depending on how/where you are going to use your car, you
> >>  may never
> >>  see a difference 'tween the two.;^)
> >>
> >>  Gordie
> >>
> >>  > -----Original Message-----
> >>  > From: Tom Reynolds [kjtar at earthlink.net]
> >>  > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 12:47 PM
> >>  > To: audidoodie at comcast.net; a4 at audifans.com
> >>  > Subject: RE: [A4] Noob ?s about A4 2.8 "MY 2 CENTS"
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Hi Gordie,
> >>  >         Yeah, I think I'd rather have the AWD system than just
> >>  FWD. The TT
> >>  > kind of "speaks" to me and gets me excited, I had the Torsen on
> >>  a '94
> >>  > MiataR I previously owned, and it seemed like a pretty seamless
> >>  system.  I
> >>  > think the Haldex is supposed to be lighter weight, correct?
> >>  > Best regards,
> >>  > Tom
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > At 09:30 AM 12/25/2004 -0500, Gordie's Garage wrote:
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Tom, the TTQ is not the same type of AWD system as the A4.  TT
> >>  > uses a Haldex
> >>  > >diff and A4 uses the Torsen diff.
> >>  > >As you were originally looking at a FWD car, the TT may be okay
> >>  for you.
> >>  > >Personally, I think the Torsen makes a world of difference.
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Gordie
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > >> get the right pricing point I'll be getting a 1.8Q or maybe a
> >>  > TT Quattro.
> >>  > >> Merry Christmas (smoke 'em if you got 'em)
> >>  > >> Tom Reynolds
> >>  > >> Sand Springs, OK
> >>  > >>
> >>  > >
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