[A4] Fading display

Fri Jul 2 15:39:39 EDT 2004

HAHAHA!!!  Yeah, right!  I honestly don't think I could get my dealership to
work w/ me at all.  I have a good relationship w/ the parts dept., but our
service dept. is, well, lacking.  No customer service to speak of.  All they
seem to care about are the numbers.  I'd like for them to prove me wrong,
but it hasn't happened yet.

I wish I could come up w/ a logical solution though.  I really do like the
display, and is very helpful, but I don't think it's worth spending $200-300
for the part and then the labor to R&R.  Until someone comes up with a
solution, I guess I'll be enjoying it in the winter months... ;)

Later,
Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
To: "Mike Rollins" <mlrsrr at charter.net>; <a4 at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [A4] Fading display

> On my car, a '98.5, the original owner had the cluster replaced 2 or 3
times
> under warranty.  It was fine for a while but then it started to fade on me
> around year 4 (2002).  The dealer again replaced it under warranty,
despite
> being out of warranty.  It's a known issue.  I have had no issues since.
I
> was told Audi came up with better electronics for the display.  But who
> knows.....
>
> Because it's a known issue you may be able to persuade the dealer to help
> you out....
>
> Brandon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Rollins" <mlrsrr at charter.net>
> To: <a4 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:27 PM
> Subject: [A4] Re: A4 Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1
>
>
> > Yeah, my info display is pretty much non-existent whenever the temps are
> > over 80 degrees outside.  They are nice and illuminated during the
winter
> > months though.  Obviously, it's a temperature issue, but I don't think
> > anyone has come up with a fix, other than buying a used cluster or
> replacing
> > the display through the dealer.
> >
> > Later,
> > Mike
> > '99 A4 Avant 1.8T qms
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> > >    1. RE: More control arm stuff (Brian J White)
> > >    2. RE: More control arm stuff (Stock, Nicholas)
> > >    3. Re: More control arm stuff (Brizax at aol.com)
> > >    4. Re: More control arm stuff (michael pagano)
> > >    5. Re: More control arm stuff (Brizax at aol.com)
> > >    6. Control Arm, etc. (David Kaiser)
> > >    7. Control arm issues (stuartf at adelphia.net)
> > >    8. Re: Control arm issues (Brian J White)
> > >    9. Re: More control arm stuff (Chris Reed)
> > >   10. Re: More control arm stuff (Blondie)
> > >   11. Re: More control arm stuff (Brandon Rogers)
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:10:39 -0700
> > > From: Brian J White <brian at bjwhite.net>
> > > Subject: RE: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: "Stock, Nicholas" <nicholas_stock at merck.com>,
> > > "'gt40 at mail.ev1.net'" <gt40 at mail.ev1.net>, a4 at audifans.com
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> > >
> > > Interesting about the instrument display.  Are we talking the
> information
> > > screen in the middle of the cluster?   Dim LEDs and missing pixels?
> > >
> > > At 13:03 2004-06-29, Stock, Nicholas wrote:
> > > >I've had no issues with the control arms on my 00 a4 with 75K on it
> > (knock
> > > >on wood too), but the instrument display is beginning to show those
> > > >tell-tail lines....
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: a4-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:a4-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > >gt40
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:01 PM
> > > >To: a4 at audifans.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Anyone know if/when Audi re-designed the arms for longer service
life?
> > > >
> > > >I have an '01 1.8T with 120k miles and haven't had any control arm
> issues
> > > >(knock on wood.)
> > > >
> > > >Now the instrument panel -- THAT'S another story...
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:11:33 -0400
> > > From: "Stock, Nicholas" <nicholas_stock at merck.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: "'Brian J White'" <brian at bjwhite.net>, "Stock, Nicholas"
> > > <nicholas_stock at merck.com>, "'gt40 at mail.ev1.net'" <gt40 at mail.ev1.net>,
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> > > Yep, although sometimes it's perfect....just depends on the day.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian J White [mailto:brian at bjwhite.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:11 PM
> > > To: Stock, Nicholas; 'gt40 at mail.ev1.net'; a4 at audifans.com
> > > Subject: RE: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting about the instrument display.  Are we talking the
> information
> > > screen in the middle of the cluster?   Dim LEDs and missing pixels?
> > >
> > > At 13:03 2004-06-29, Stock, Nicholas wrote:
> > > >I've had no issues with the control arms on my 00 a4 with 75K on it
> > (knock
> > > >on wood too), but the instrument display is beginning to show those
> > > >tell-tail lines....
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: a4-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:a4-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > >gt40
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:01 PM
> > > >To: a4 at audifans.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Anyone know if/when Audi re-designed the arms for longer service
life?
> > > >
> > > >I have an '01 1.8T with 120k miles and haven't had any control arm
> issues
> > > >(knock on wood.)
> > > >
> > > >Now the instrument panel -- THAT'S another story...
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:21:55 EDT
> > > From: Brizax at aol.com
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: mvp12547 at yahoo.com, jlandsverk at jjkeller.com, a4 at audifans.com,
> > > brian at bjwhite.net, brogers at terrix.com
> > > Message-ID: <42.51ba597a.2e132963 at aol.com>
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> > >
> > > watch around in traffic next time, youll see em, whats weird is vw
from
> > the
> > > factory used adheasive tape that ponly lasted about 2-3 years even
> though
> > they
> > > already were drilled for the plastic clips,  some dealers might
replace
> > the
> > > trim tape before they sell them now it was such a proble, i have owned
> > about 4
> > > vws in my time as well
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/29/2004 3:20:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > mvp12547 at yahoo.com writes:
> > > Well,lets see, I have never replaced a door trim on my Jettas,Golfs or
> > GTIs
> > > so I would have to say false based on my experience. That would be 14
VW
> > > products but only three from 95 to 99.
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:29:27 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: michael pagano <mvp12547 at yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: Brizax at aol.com, jlandsverk at jjkeller.com, a4 at audifans.com,
> > > brian at bjwhite.net, brogers at terrix.com
> > > Message-ID: <20040629202927.44101.qmail at web60904.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > > I will keep my eyes peeled. I am on the road all day, everyday. It
will
> be
> > a way to make the day entertaining. Now that you've called my attention
to
> > it I'll probably see a bazillion of em.
> > >
> > >
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:41:47 EDT
> > > From: Brizax at aol.com
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: mvp12547 at yahoo.com, jlandsverk at jjkeller.com, a4 at audifans.com,
> > > brian at bjwhite.net, brogers at terrix.com
> > > Message-ID: <ca.2d845d91.2e132e0b at aol.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > >
> > > roflmao yeah be carefull there dont want any accidents, maybe i have
> > already
> > > entertained your day all day huh . thank got for the audi list
> > > I will keep my eyes peeled. I am on the road all day, everyday. It
will
> be
> > a
> > > way to make the day entertaining. Now that you've called my attention
to
> > it
> > > I'll probably see a bazillion of em.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:04:11 -0400
> > > From: "David Kaiser" <David.Kaiser at noaa.gov>
> > > Subject: [A4] Control Arm, etc.
> > > To: A4 List Serve <a4 at audifans.com>
> > > Message-ID: <40E1D94B.9010403 at noaa.gov>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> > >
> > > I am a new Audi owner (as of Feb. 2003) and have had one problem with
my
> > > 2003 A4 3.0 Avant (with sports suspension and 17 inch all season
z-rated
> > > Dunlop SP 5000 tires). The car has just over 14,000 miles. The problem
> > > may be related to the "control arm" discussion or an earlier
discussion
> > > on a noise from the steering column. Here is the problem. Starting at
> > > 5,500 miles, a very loud groaning noise occurred intermittently, but
> > > frequently, when the car was not moving and the steering wheel was
> > > turned to the left from the right/far right. The noise never occurs
> > > turning from left to right. The groaning noise is loud enough to be
> > > heard outside of the car, several cars away, and inside the car the
> > > groaning noise is so load that you think the wheels are being torn
off.
> > > Usually the groaning noise occurs after the car has been driven. At
> > > 5,700 miles, my dealer replaced the Power Steering Pump. However, the
> > > loud groaning noise continued to occur with the same frequency. At
mile
> > > 6,300, the dealer replaced the Steering Rack. That seemed to work for
a
> > > while. However, at 8,000 miles, the same groaning noise returned. My
> > > dealer, again after consulting the Audi Tech Line, replaced the 1.10
> > > Power Steering Return Hose. This seemed to do the trick. However,
> > > several weeks later the groaning noise returned once or twice, but
this
> > > time the dealer was not able to duplicate the noise and made no
further
> > > repairs. The groaning noise did not return for several months.
However,
> > > since March 2004, the groaning noise has occurred on five occasions
> > > (this is with much, much less frequency). I have notified Audi and
they
> > > are looking into it further. Anyone have any thoughts on this problem?
> > > BTW, aside from this problem and the lack of useful cup holders, I
love
> > > this car! Thanks, David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:31:14 -0400
> > > From: <stuartf at adelphia.net>
> > > Subject: [A4] Control arm issues
> > > To: <a4 at audifans.com>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <20040630153114.RRRI12887.mta10.adelphia.net at mail.adelphia.net>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > I have had big probs with the 98.5 2.8, none with the 99 1.8.
> > >
> > > BUT, I have a friend with a 98 Passat, she has put big $$$ into it,
had
> > many front end parts replaced at the VW dealer recently.
> > > Last week he calls her and tells her thatVW is having a recall and she
> > will be reimbursed for much of the work!!
> > >
> > > Check it out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:41:13 -0700
> > > From: Brian J White <brian at bjwhite.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] Control arm issues
> > > To: <stuartf at adelphia.net>, <a4 at audifans.com>
> > > Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20040630084100.02db6660 at 65.108.70.149>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> > >
> > > I found this on the Audi Club Hong Kong website.
> > >
> > > 870.000 vehicles recalled
> > >
> > > 1996 to 1999 Passat
> > > 1994 to 1999 Audi A4 and Audi A8
> > > 1997 to 1999 Audi A6
> > >
> > > Reason:
> > > Failure of control arm bushings on high mileage vehicles can lead to
the
> > > front end to collapse/come apart.
> > >
> > > Vw and Audi Cars Recalled
> > > By Peter Woodman, Transport Correspondent, PA News
> > >
> > > Around 870,000 Volkswagen and Audi cars, including about 166,000 in
the
> UK
> > > are being recalled worldwide because of a wheel problem, it was
> announced
> > > today.
> > >
> > > Volkswagen Group which owns both marques said that rubber boots
> (casings)
> > > on the front axle on some older models were prone to possible damage.
> > >
> > > This can lead to wear and, in isolated cases, to the failure of the
> > bearing
> > > arm which connects the wheels to the suspension.
> > >
> > > A Volkswagen spokeswoman said today: "The ultimate result could be
that
> a
> > > wheel could fall off although this would only happen at very low
speed."
> > >
> > > The recall affects Volkswagen Passats built between 1996 and 1999,
Audi
> > A4s
> > > and A8s built 1994-99 and A6s built 1997-99.
> > >
> > > Drivers of these vehicles will have the problem fixed free of charge.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 08:31 2004-06-30, stuartf at adelphia.net wrote:
> > > >I have had big probs with the 98.5 2.8, none with the 99 1.8.
> > > >
> > > >BUT, I have a friend with a 98 Passat, she has put big $$$ into it,
had
> > > >many front end parts replaced at the VW dealer recently.
> > > >Last week he calls her and tells her thatVW is having a recall and
she
> > > >will be reimbursed for much of the work!!
> > > >
> > > >Check it out.
> > > >
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> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 9
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:15:16 -0400
> > > From: "Chris Reed" <tfcwr at hotmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: <a4 at audifans.com>
> > > Message-ID: <BAY19-DAV10GEZmGxdD00050b2f at hotmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Thought I'd chime in...
> > >
> > > Awhile ago i read off a german audi website about the reason for the
> > common
> > > failures of the control arm joints. The mode of failure is due to loss
> of
> > > lubricant in the joint due to braking heat. Hard braking causes the
> > > lubricant to dryout over time and/or cause the sealing boot to dry out
> and
> > > fail as well. Audi redesigned the control arms around model year 2000
> with
> > > better lubricant and boot materials.
> > >
> > > My control arms just started squeaking on my 2000 A4 with 67k miles. I
> am
> > > going to inject redline CV2 high temp grease through the sealing boots
> > this
> > > weekend which should silence/cure the problem.
> > >
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 10
> > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 07:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Blondie <sblondie at rocketmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: a4 at audifans.com
> > > Message-ID: <20040701142325.14864.qmail at web41102.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >
> > >
> > > I called Audi of America to substantiate this claim but they have no
> > knowledge of this current recall. I would like to believe that it was
true
> > as my now clunking control arm needs to be replaced. I know they have
been
> > replaced once already during a previous campaign.
> > >
> > > Is there any date on this recall notice or is it recent?
> > >
> > > I have a '98 A4 1.8T -
> > >
> > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Message: 11
> > > Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:08:12 -0600
> > > From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > > To: "Blondie" <sblondie at rocketmail.com>, <a4 at audifans.com>
> > > Message-ID: <005301c45f7d$3bcc1e00$0b01a8c0 at terrixden>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > I talked with my dealer contact a few days ago and he said that the
> recall
> > > was for something like a seal for the ball joints-The dealers would
soon
> > > start doing inspections (20 minute process) and then make repairs as
> > needed.
> > > He said Audi was in essence still gearing up for the recall- and was
not
> > > actually doing the work _yet_ but fairly soon....or something to that
> > > effect.....
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Blondie" <sblondie at rocketmail.com>
> > > To: <a4 at audifans.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:23 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [A4] More control arm stuff
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I called Audi of America to substantiate this claim but they have no
> > > knowledge of this current recall. I would like to believe that it was
> true
> > > as my now clunking control arm needs to be replaced. I know they have
> been
> > > replaced once already during a previous campaign.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any date on this recall notice or is it recent?
> > > >
> > > > I have a '98 A4 1.8T -
> > > >
> > > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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