[A4] Clutch Woes - Round 3

[Tom Christiansen]

No, but a popped reservoir will...

Tom

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Richard Andrews <
richard.j.andrews at gmail.com> wrote:

> agreed but the slave wont put brake fluid anywhere need the paint,
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Tom Christiansen <tomchr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Careful with that... Hydraulic fluid is supposedly really good for
>> stripping
>> paint. You really don't want to test that hypothesis on the paint job of
>> your car.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Richard Hurt <rnhurt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > OK,
>> >
>> > I have my power bleeder built (yea!) and have given it a test run
>> without
>> > much success (boo!).  I had a few small leaks which I've (hopefully)
>> fixed
>> > and now I'm must waiting for the stuff to dry.  I do have a couple of
>> > questions about the procedure though.  I used 10PSI just for a test and
>> the
>> > reservoir enlarged quite a bit under the pressure.  Is this normal?
>>  What
>> > happens when you pump it up to the recommended 30PSI?  Will it hold!?
>> >  Also,
>> > I didn't get any fluid out of the slave at all.  I know its a low
>> pressure
>> > but I thought I might see something come out.  Do I have to pump the
>> pedal
>> > when pressure bleeding?
>> >
>> > Thanx!
>> >  Richard
>> > *
>> > Man, I don't want to blow up my reservoir...  That would suck!!!*
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:49 PM, richard valasek <rrv53 at comcast.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Richard: You definitely need to power bleed the system--nothing esle
>> will
>> > > work--believe me I tried with ruined parts as a result.
>> > > Richard
>> > > 98 A$ 1.8tq
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hurt" <rnhurt at gmail.com>
>> > > To: "Nicholas Stock" <nickstock at gmail.com>
>> > > Cc: "A4 Mailing List" <a4 at audifans.com>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:30 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [A4] Clutch Woes - Round 2
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  Thanks for the feedback.  I can confirm that there is no nipple on
>> the
>> > >> master cylinder as I just replaced it and have the old one to
>> reference.
>> > >> Bleeding from the slave nipple is what the Bentley recommends,
>> however
>> > it
>> > >> says to use the Audi power bleeder pumped up to 32 psi and open the
>> > slave
>> > >> nipple and let 100cc of fluid out.  Almost all of my past vehicles
>> have
>> > >> recommended the pressure bleeder but none of them has required it.  I
>> > have
>> > >> always been able to manual method it - until now.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanx!
>> > >>  Richard
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Nicholas Stock <nickstock at gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>  Richard, on my 2000 A4 1.8T, there was a nipple on the top of the
>> > gearbox
>> > >>> housing which I believe was the master cylinder bleed (I could be
>> > >>> wrong..but
>> > >>> fluid definitely came out under pressure, it's been a while!). I
>> used a
>> > >>> motive power bleeder when doing my brakes and bled the clutch at the
>> > same
>> > >>> time (probably not that necessary..but I thought, what the hell...).
>> I
>> > >>> purchased the motive power bleeder from ECS tuning, but I'm sure you
>> > can
>> > >>> find it elsewhere...hope this helps!
>> > >>> Does the Bentley not indicate where the clutch bleed is?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Nick
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Richard Hurt <rnhurt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>  OK, I just replaced both the master & slave clutch cylinders on my
>> '98
>> > Q
>> > >>>> 30v
>> > >>>> and boy was it fun!  The master was by far the hardest and took a
>> > couple
>> > >>>> of
>> > >>>> hours.  The secret to my installation was to use the firewall
>> > seal/steel
>> > >>>> washer off of the old master.  The new seal was too big for me to
>> get
>> > in
>> > >>>> properly.  I'm talking about the seal that goes around the main
>> line
>> > >>>> against
>> > >>>> the firewall - it only keeps out the rain and drafts and should be
>> > fine
>> > >>>> to
>> > >>>> use the old one.  The slave was really not too bad at all.  I took
>> off
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> drivers side front tire and had my Dad guide me in.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Now for the big question: how the hell do you bleed the clutch
>> > >>>> system!?!?!
>> > >>>> We tried the old 2-man manual method but didn't get anywhere.  We
>> also
>> > >>>> tried
>> > >>>> the tube in a mason jar method with about the same results.  I
>> looked
>> > a
>> > >>>> little bit on-line and it seems like our cars (+ SAAB & Volvo)
>> require
>> > a
>> > >>>> pressure bleeder.  You can't use a vacuum bleeder because it just
>> > sucks
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>> juice out of the master cylinder and I know that the manual method
>> > >>>> doesn't
>> > >>>> work.  All we got were some light puffs of air coming out of the
>> > system
>> > >>>> but
>> > >>>> the pedal still drops right to the floor with no resistance at all.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Can anybody point me in the right direction here?  Any
>> recommendations
>> > >>>> on
>> > >>>> a
>> > >>>> pressure bleeder?  How about a DIY model?  The manual says it needs
>> a
>> > >>>> pressure of 32 psi but that seems quite high to me.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanx!
>> > >>>>  Richard
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