[A4] Clutch Woes - Round 3

Mon Jun 23 10:02:01 PDT 2008

So nobody has done this before at the "recommended" 30PSI?  Does the
reservoir actually hold up at that pressure!?  Maybe I need to check that
cesspit that is the Audi World Forums.  :(

Later...
  Richard

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Tom Christiansen <tomchr at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, but a popped reservoir will...
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Richard Andrews <
> richard.j.andrews at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > agreed but the slave wont put brake fluid anywhere need the paint,
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Tom Christiansen <tomchr at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Careful with that... Hydraulic fluid is supposedly really good for
> >> stripping
> >> paint. You really don't want to test that hypothesis on the paint job of
> >> your car.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Richard Hurt <rnhurt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > OK,
> >> >
> >> > I have my power bleeder built (yea!) and have given it a test run
> >> without
> >> > much success (boo!).  I had a few small leaks which I've (hopefully)
> >> fixed
> >> > and now I'm must waiting for the stuff to dry.  I do have a couple of
> >> > questions about the procedure though.  I used 10PSI just for a test
> and
> >> the
> >> > reservoir enlarged quite a bit under the pressure.  Is this normal?
> >>  What
> >> > happens when you pump it up to the recommended 30PSI?  Will it hold!?
> >> >  Also,
> >> > I didn't get any fluid out of the slave at all.  I know its a low
> >> pressure
> >> > but I thought I might see something come out.  Do I have to pump the
> >> pedal
> >> > when pressure bleeding?
> >> >
> >> > Thanx!
> >> >  Richard
> >> > *
> >> > Man, I don't want to blow up my reservoir...  That would suck!!!*
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:49 PM, richard valasek <rrv53 at comcast.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Richard: You definitely need to power bleed the system--nothing esle
> >> will
> >> > > work--believe me I tried with ruined parts as a result.
> >> > > Richard
> >> > > 98 A$ 1.8tq
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hurt" <rnhurt at gmail.com
> >
> >> > > To: "Nicholas Stock" <nickstock at gmail.com>
> >> > > Cc: "A4 Mailing List" <a4 at audifans.com>
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:30 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [A4] Clutch Woes - Round 2
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >  Thanks for the feedback.  I can confirm that there is no nipple on
> >> the
> >> > >> master cylinder as I just replaced it and have the old one to
> >> reference.
> >> > >> Bleeding from the slave nipple is what the Bentley recommends,
> >> however
> >> > it
> >> > >> says to use the Audi power bleeder pumped up to 32 psi and open the
> >> > slave
> >> > >> nipple and let 100cc of fluid out.  Almost all of my past vehicles
> >> have
> >> > >> recommended the pressure bleeder but none of them has required it.
>  I
> >> > have
> >> > >> always been able to manual method it - until now.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanx!
> >> > >>  Richard
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Nicholas Stock <
> nickstock at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>  Richard, on my 2000 A4 1.8T, there was a nipple on the top of the
> >> > gearbox
> >> > >>> housing which I believe was the master cylinder bleed (I could be
> >> > >>> wrong..but
> >> > >>> fluid definitely came out under pressure, it's been a while!). I
> >> used a
> >> > >>> motive power bleeder when doing my brakes and bled the clutch at
> the
> >> > same
> >> > >>> time (probably not that necessary..but I thought, what the
> hell...).
> >> I
> >> > >>> purchased the motive power bleeder from ECS tuning, but I'm sure
> you
> >> > can
> >> > >>> find it elsewhere...hope this helps!
> >> > >>> Does the Bentley not indicate where the clutch bleed is?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Regards,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Nick
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Richard Hurt <rnhurt at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>  OK, I just replaced both the master & slave clutch cylinders on
> my
> >> '98
> >> > Q
> >> > >>>> 30v
> >> > >>>> and boy was it fun!  The master was by far the hardest and took a
> >> > couple
> >> > >>>> of
> >> > >>>> hours.  The secret to my installation was to use the firewall
> >> > seal/steel
> >> > >>>> washer off of the old master.  The new seal was too big for me to
> >> get
> >> > in
> >> > >>>> properly.  I'm talking about the seal that goes around the main
> >> line
> >> > >>>> against
> >> > >>>> the firewall - it only keeps out the rain and drafts and should
> be
> >> > fine
> >> > >>>> to
> >> > >>>> use the old one.  The slave was really not too bad at all.  I
> took
> >> off
> >> > >>>> the
> >> > >>>> drivers side front tire and had my Dad guide me in.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Now for the big question: how the hell do you bleed the clutch
> >> > >>>> system!?!?!
> >> > >>>> We tried the old 2-man manual method but didn't get anywhere.  We
> >> also
> >> > >>>> tried
> >> > >>>> the tube in a mason jar method with about the same results.  I
> >> looked
> >> > a
> >> > >>>> little bit on-line and it seems like our cars (+ SAAB & Volvo)
> >> require
> >> > a
> >> > >>>> pressure bleeder.  You can't use a vacuum bleeder because it just
> >> > sucks
> >> > >>>> the
> >> > >>>> juice out of the master cylinder and I know that the manual
> method
> >> > >>>> doesn't
> >> > >>>> work.  All we got were some light puffs of air coming out of the
> >> > system
> >> > >>>> but
> >> > >>>> the pedal still drops right to the floor with no resistance at
> all.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Can anybody point me in the right direction here?  Any
> >> recommendations
> >> > >>>> on
> >> > >>>> a
> >> > >>>> pressure bleeder?  How about a DIY model?  The manual says it
> needs
> >> a
> >> > >>>> pressure of 32 psi but that seems quite high to me.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thanx!
> >> > >>>>  Richard
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