[A4] Clutch Woes - Round 3

[Richard Andrews]

Do NOT do 30psi 10psi is plenty i usually go 10-14 max with my powerbleeder.

-richard

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Richard Hurt <rnhurt at gmail.com> wrote:

> So nobody has done this before at the "recommended" 30PSI?  Does the
> reservoir actually hold up at that pressure!?  Maybe I need to check that
> cesspit that is the Audi World Forums.  :(
>
> Later...
>   Richard
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Tom Christiansen <tomchr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > No, but a popped reservoir will...
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Richard Andrews <
> > richard.j.andrews at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > agreed but the slave wont put brake fluid anywhere need the paint,
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Tom Christiansen <tomchr at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Careful with that... Hydraulic fluid is supposedly really good for
> > >> stripping
> > >> paint. You really don't want to test that hypothesis on the paint job
> of
> > >> your car.
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Richard Hurt <rnhurt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > OK,
> > >> >
> > >> > I have my power bleeder built (yea!) and have given it a test run
> > >> without
> > >> > much success (boo!).  I had a few small leaks which I've (hopefully)
> > >> fixed
> > >> > and now I'm must waiting for the stuff to dry.  I do have a couple
> of
> > >> > questions about the procedure though.  I used 10PSI just for a test
> > and
> > >> the
> > >> > reservoir enlarged quite a bit under the pressure.  Is this normal?
> > >>  What
> > >> > happens when you pump it up to the recommended 30PSI?  Will it
> hold!?
> > >> >  Also,
> > >> > I didn't get any fluid out of the slave at all.  I know its a low
> > >> pressure
> > >> > but I thought I might see something come out.  Do I have to pump the
> > >> pedal
> > >> > when pressure bleeding?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanx!
> > >> >  Richard
> > >> > *
> > >> > Man, I don't want to blow up my reservoir...  That would suck!!!*
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:49 PM, richard valasek <rrv53 at comcast.net
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Richard: You definitely need to power bleed the system--nothing
> esle
> > >> will
> > >> > > work--believe me I tried with ruined parts as a result.
> > >> > > Richard
> > >> > > 98 A$ 1.8tq
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hurt" <
> rnhurt at gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > > To: "Nicholas Stock" <nickstock at gmail.com>
> > >> > > Cc: "A4 Mailing List" <a4 at audifans.com>
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:30 PM
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [A4] Clutch Woes - Round 2
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >  Thanks for the feedback.  I can confirm that there is no nipple
> on
> > >> the
> > >> > >> master cylinder as I just replaced it and have the old one to
> > >> reference.
> > >> > >> Bleeding from the slave nipple is what the Bentley recommends,
> > >> however
> > >> > it
> > >> > >> says to use the Audi power bleeder pumped up to 32 psi and open
> the
> > >> > slave
> > >> > >> nipple and let 100cc of fluid out.  Almost all of my past
> vehicles
> > >> have
> > >> > >> recommended the pressure bleeder but none of them has required
> it.
> >  I
> > >> > have
> > >> > >> always been able to manual method it - until now.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Thanx!
> > >> > >>  Richard
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Nicholas Stock <
> > nickstock at gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>  Richard, on my 2000 A4 1.8T, there was a nipple on the top of
> the
> > >> > gearbox
> > >> > >>> housing which I believe was the master cylinder bleed (I could
> be
> > >> > >>> wrong..but
> > >> > >>> fluid definitely came out under pressure, it's been a while!). I
> > >> used a
> > >> > >>> motive power bleeder when doing my brakes and bled the clutch at
> > the
> > >> > same
> > >> > >>> time (probably not that necessary..but I thought, what the
> > hell...).
> > >> I
> > >> > >>> purchased the motive power bleeder from ECS tuning, but I'm sure
> > you
> > >> > can
> > >> > >>> find it elsewhere...hope this helps!
> > >> > >>> Does the Bentley not indicate where the clutch bleed is?
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Regards,
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Nick
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Richard Hurt <rnhurt at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>  OK, I just replaced both the master & slave clutch cylinders on
> > my
> > >> '98
> > >> > Q
> > >> > >>>> 30v
> > >> > >>>> and boy was it fun!  The master was by far the hardest and took
> a
> > >> > couple
> > >> > >>>> of
> > >> > >>>> hours.  The secret to my installation was to use the firewall
> > >> > seal/steel
> > >> > >>>> washer off of the old master.  The new seal was too big for me
> to
> > >> get
> > >> > in
> > >> > >>>> properly.  I'm talking about the seal that goes around the main
> > >> line
> > >> > >>>> against
> > >> > >>>> the firewall - it only keeps out the rain and drafts and should
> > be
> > >> > fine
> > >> > >>>> to
> > >> > >>>> use the old one.  The slave was really not too bad at all.  I
> > took
> > >> off
> > >> > >>>> the
> > >> > >>>> drivers side front tire and had my Dad guide me in.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Now for the big question: how the hell do you bleed the clutch
> > >> > >>>> system!?!?!
> > >> > >>>> We tried the old 2-man manual method but didn't get anywhere.
>  We
> > >> also
> > >> > >>>> tried
> > >> > >>>> the tube in a mason jar method with about the same results.  I
> > >> looked
> > >> > a
> > >> > >>>> little bit on-line and it seems like our cars (+ SAAB & Volvo)
> > >> require
> > >> > a
> > >> > >>>> pressure bleeder.  You can't use a vacuum bleeder because it
> just
> > >> > sucks
> > >> > >>>> the
> > >> > >>>> juice out of the master cylinder and I know that the manual
> > method
> > >> > >>>> doesn't
> > >> > >>>> work.  All we got were some light puffs of air coming out of
> the
> > >> > system
> > >> > >>>> but
> > >> > >>>> the pedal still drops right to the floor with no resistance at
> > all.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Can anybody point me in the right direction here?  Any
> > >> recommendations
> > >> > >>>> on
> > >> > >>>> a
> > >> > >>>> pressure bleeder?  How about a DIY model?  The manual says it
> > needs
> > >> a
> > >> > >>>> pressure of 32 psi but that seems quite high to me.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Thanx!
> > >> > >>>>  Richard
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