[BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) - Update

Thu Apr 10 23:07:40 EDT 2003

It was my understanding from e-mails on this list that the S4 has a
turbo timer.  It was just that I had never heard it come on.  I thought
someone mentioned that you really had to drive it hard for it to come
on.

Anyone else remember this?

Marc

j y wrote:

> Good point!
>
> My Porsche has a built in timer - depending on how
> hard its driven - the fan and water (flowing thru the
> turbo housing) - stay on for varying amounts of time.
> That is a difference btw the Porsche and Audi now that
> I think about it.
>
> jy
>
> --- Michael Kuriger <michael at isuzu-mods.com> wrote:
> > the one thing that audi has no control over is the
> > cooloff before
> > shutting down the motor.  if they had installed a
> > factory turbo timer
> > device, then these turbos would probably las a lot
> > longer.  it's hard to
> > pump oil through a turbo with burned oil in the
> > lines and center
> > housing.  I was going to put a turbo timer in mine,
> > but it looked like a
> > wiring nightmare and heard it throws codes when
> > things like the climate
> > controil try to operate with no power to the fans.
> >
> > any thoughts?
> > Mike
> >
> > j y wrote:
> >
> > >Bruce,
> > >
> > >Thanks for the advice. At this point, there is no
> > >record of me inquiring about strange noises under
> > my
> > >hood until today. I can guarantee you that AUDI is
> > >going to use TODAY as my day of record.
> > >
> > >That being said - I am SORRY - this is a well known
> > >and documented problem. I will resort to trickery
> > to
> > >get Audi USA to honor mechanical defect - NOT AS A
> > >RESULT OF ABUSE (the common claim of
> > manufacturers).
> > >
> > >The boost on this car never has NEVER been enhanced
> > (I
> > >must admit that I was planning to do so - but this
> > >turbo failure got in the way).
> > >
> > >So, that being said - in my opinion - it's is
> > >unreasonable for a manufacturer to try and weasle
> > out
> > >of a claim when the machine is just 2k mi over the
> > >warranty expiration - that is just TOO close - like
> > >horse shoes and hand grenades. If I have to go the
> > >"lemon law" route - I will. Too many people are
> > aware
> > >of the S4's reputation for turbo failure.
> > >
> > >In fact, the guys at AWE said "that even the late
> > >2001s and 2002s have had turbo failure." Rule of
> > thumb
> > >was, the 2000s and early 2001s were suspect.
> > >
> > >I will not accept anything LESS than 2 new turbos
> > and
> > >plumbing under warranty!
> > >
> > >BTW, the car is sitting in my driveway - it will
> > not
> > >be operated until April 16th - when I drive it to
> > the
> > >dealer.
> > >
> > >In the meantime, I am driving my ALT (not up on my
> > >German spelling - probably misspelled) PORSCHE.
> > Thank
> > >God - it's still ticking after 125k mi (on the
> > >original turbo - been chipped for 5k mi - mainly
> > keep
> > >it at stock boost w/the Greddy Boost controller)and
> > a
> > >new body (kit). It wasn't meant to be my every day
> > car
> > >- thatwas what the S4 was suppoed to be.
> > >
> > >jy
> > >
> > >--- Bruce Mendel <brucem105 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Get Audi USA involved and on the record now.....if
> > >>you drive around till
> > >>4/16, they may say you made the condition get
> > worse
> > >>and/or more expensive to
> > >>repair. Tell Audi you started hearing the noise
> > >>PRIOR to expiration of the
> > >>warranty, but were told when calling casually that
> > >>turbos make whistling
> > >>noises, and it was normal, and to call/visit if it
> > >>got worse.
> > >>
> > >>It got worse, you are trying to visit, and this is
> > a
> > >>known issue which you
> > >>expect them to take care of if in fact it turns
> > out
> > >>to be blown turbos.
> > >>
> > >>Good luck!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "j y" <jimnetpa at yahoo.com>
> > >>To: "biturbos4" <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> > >>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:52 PM
> > >>Subject: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4)
> > -
> > >>Update
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Well Folks,
> > >>>
> > >>>My worst fear was confirmed today. Before taking
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>my
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>beloved Y2K Imola S4 to the Audi dealer - I opted
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>to
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>get an INDEPENDENT opinion - first.
> > >>>
> > >>>While doing some other work (at 52.9k mi - it's
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>out of
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>warranty) on my S4, I asked AWE (reputable Audi
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Tuner
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>that is well known) to confirm my suspicions
> > about
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>the
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>HIGH pitched siren like whine coming from my
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>engine
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>compartment when acclerating (becomes very
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>noticeable
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>at 2k RPMs and above).
> > >>>
> > >>>Their professional opinion - Your S4 didn't throw
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>any
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>VAG codes BUT - IT HAS NO BOOST TO SPEAK OF -
> > PLUS
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>THE
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>HIGH PITCHED WHINE - Buddy - We think you blew
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>your
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>turbo(s)- Call AUDI - since you are so close to
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>the
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>warranty expiration and you've NEVER CHIPPED the
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>car.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I called the Audi dealer who sold me the car and
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>has
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>serviced it from the beginning. Their response -
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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