[BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) - Update

[j y]

Yes...and Audi took the ALL into cosideration when
they decided to DISCONTINUE the bi-turbo platform for
the S4.

IMO...this was not mere coincidence...Audi knows that
the current S4 bi-turbo platform has inherent
defects...they lucky people...have them happen BEFORE
THE WARRANTY PERIOD ends.

Like I said before, since I am ONLY 2k mi passed the
warranty expiration - I am looking for Audi USA to
make an exception...since this problem could have
happened 3k mi ago and I would have been well within
my warranty dealine..it was just LUCK of the DRAW in
my case.

Many manufacturers will take how long after warranty
that a defect appears when they decide to offer a post
warranty claim. Like I said in my previous email...the
dealer was willing to to GO 50/50 WITH ME BASED ON THE
SYMPTOMS I DESCRIBED OVER THE PHONE! The car WAS NOT
IN THEIR POSSESSION. So, in my FEEBLE MIND...THIS
MEANS THAT AUDI ACKNOLWEDGES THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM
THAT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED BY PURCHASERS OF THIS MODEL
OR ELSE THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD ME TO "POUND SAND!"

I said that I would not accept any deal without
further discussion and the involvement of Audi USA. I
noticed that many posters on Audi World with this
problem - took that route.

My only aftermkt mod was a pair of Stratmosphere DVs -
my ECU has thrown NO VAG Codes - according to AWE
(www.AWE.com) - who gave me their professional
assessment that my turbo(s) were blown. BTW, this
local Audi dealer has dealt with AWE..so I suspect
that they respect AWE's opinion.

jy
00 S4
86 951

--- Scott <stiles_s at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not a lawyer, but I've watched a lot of lawyers
> on TV :)
>
> John, what you got was some good fortune. Audi had
> no legal duty to cover
> your turbos -- they did you a favor and you should
> be *very* thankful. Their
> responsibilities end when the warranty runs out.
>
> Just because they did you a favor, doesn't mean they
> are now legally
> required to replicate this favor, they can simply
> change their minds.
>
> These cars are going to potentially be *expensive*
> to keep running after the
> warranty. It's not that things go wrong incredibly
> often, but when they do
> it's insanely expensive to fix them. This bodes
> really poorly for long-term
> resale value, just like it has for many previous
> Audi versions, IMO. Turbos?
> $7k, Clutch? $2k?, Tranny? I've heard as much as
> $18k.
>
> Scott.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: biturbos4-admin at audifans.com
> [mailto:biturbos4-admin at audifans.com] On
> Behalf Of Kjos'
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:04 AM
> To: biturbos4
> Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped
> S4) - Update
>
> Not exactly. I am an example of Audi honoring a
> blown turbo warranty
> slightly outside of the official warranty (on a
> previous car). Audi must be
> consistent. If they honor a slight extension for
> one, they should for all
> under similar circumstances. I think there is a
> legal argument. Wally?
>
> John Kjos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian McCloghrie" <ian at codrus.com>
> To: "j y" <jimnetpa at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>;
> "biturbos4"
> <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped
> S4) - Update
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 2003 j y wrote:
> > > So, that being said - in my opinion - it's is
> > > unreasonable for a manufacturer to try and
> weasle out
> > > of a claim when the machine is just 2k mi over
> the
> > > warranty expiration - that is just TOO close -
> like
> >
> > What "weaseling"?  They promised you warranty
> coverage until 3 years/50K
> > miles, whichever came first (or 4 years if you
> have an '01).  If there
> > are 50,001 miles on the car, well, that's more
> than 50K, they are under
> > no obligation whatsoever to cover repairs to your
> car.  This isn't a case
> > of denying a warranty based upon some unrelated
> trivial modification,
> > it's open and shut.  Anything Audi covers for you
> comes out of the
> > "good customer relations" budget.
> >
> > As for the lemon law -- there are very specific
> guidlines for which the
> > lemon law can be invoked.  These guidelines vary
> from state to state,
> > but as far as I know, a single expensive failure
> outside of the warranty
> > period generally isn't one of them.
> >
> > --Ian
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