[BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) - Update
j y
jimnetpa at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 16 23:57:21 EDT 2003
No offense Mike - but your suggestions are extreme.
I've never had to follow these steps with my 17 yr old
Porsche 951. I only allow a 'cool down' (idling the
car for 1-2 mins) after a hard run and that's it. As
soon as I turn off the ignition - the afterrun pump
(Ian's term) comes on for another 1-2 mins. That's it.
The Porsche is chipped with other mods - the S4 is
stock except for the DVs (Stratmosphere).
jy
--- mike kuriger <michael at isuzu-mods.com> wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> the turbos are not weak. if they are designed to
> last 50,000 miles and
> they last 52,000 miles then I don't see audi's
> fault. turbo's fail,
> it's a fact of life. some fail faster depending on
> how the car is
> driven but it is going to fail. if you want to
> extend the life of your
> turbos, it's up to you to change the oil more often,
> and run the motor
> at idle EVERY time you stop for 2 to 3 minutes.
>
> Mike
>
> Bruce Mendel wrote:
>
> >I agree.....if this were about a one-off failure
> that occurred after
> >warranty, or due to chipping, it would be one
> thing. However, this is a
> >known problem that affects many stock cars in the
> same model lineup, some
> >before, some after warranty.
> >
> >Once that becomes known, it is Audi's job to
> identify the problem and
> >recall/repair ALL the potentially affected units,
> or if they want to avoid a
> >recall, to take care of people that experience this
> problem after warranty
> >and/or extend the powertrain warranty or turbo
> warranty to give customers
> >peace of mind.
> >
> >It's like you know you have a weak staircase and
> people have fallen through
> >it before. You do not tell anyone you have a weak
> staircase, but rather say:
> >"Anyone that falls through the staircase after 9PM
> will not get an ambulance
> >or get their broken bones set."
> >
> >If you did not know the staircase was weak and
> prone to failure to begin
> >with, no one would think anything of the 9PM
> limitation. Once you know it's
> >weak, that statement defines "weasel".
> >
> >Bruce
> >01' S4, stock turbos
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "California Fields" <cfields72 at hotmail.com>
> >To: <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 12:32 PM
> >Subject: RE: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped
> S4) - Update
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>[ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
> >>
> >>Scott, while I understand what you are saying,
> this is EXACTLY what leads
> >>
> >>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>poorly managed companies, "Their responsibilities
> end when the warranty
> >>
> >>
> >runs
> >
> >
> >>out." On the contrary, what separates a great
> company from a poor one is
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>ability to maintain customer service
> responsibilities even AFTER the
> >>
> >>
> >company's
> >
> >
> >>obligation. When companies say, "oops, you're
> over our 50k limit, sorry
> >>
> >>
> >but
> >
> >
> >>your SOL," they significantly reduce peoples'
> trust and willingness to
> >>consider their product again. This is especially
> the case when a product
> >>
> >>
> >(S4)
> >
> >
> >>had KNOWN weaknesses where problems were/are
> likely to develop. By denying
> >>
> >>
> >customers
> >
> >
> >>service on a clearly inferior product (the turbo
> design that is), they
> >>
> >>
> >risk
> >
> >
> >>alienating what keeps them in business - return
> customers.
> >>
> >>I hope our fellow S4 owner takes it to 'em and
> gets the coverage he
> >>
> >>
> >deserves.
> >
> >
> >>------------------------------
> >>
> >>Carter Fields, San Francisco
> >>2001.5, GIAC-X, Miltek 3" cat-back, Strat.
> shifter, Strat. DVs, A-pillar
> >>
> >>
> >boost
> >
> >
> >>gauge
> >>------------------------------
> >>
>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >----
> >
> >
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> >>
> >>===References:===
> >> 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMXENUS/2728
> >>
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