[BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) - Update

Sat Apr 19 09:13:49 EDT 2003

JY,  What after market warranty company did you use?

Marc

j y wrote:

> Carter & the list,
>
> My early model (11/99 build) 2000 Imola S4 has had the
> following problems:
>
> * torn TBB (replaced by Audi @ 7k mi)
> * leaking valve cover gasket (replaced by Audi @ 48k
> mi)
> * warped rotors (replaced by Audi @ 32k mi)
> * blown turbo (??? will know OFFICIALLY on 4/16/03)
>
> I am the original owner and the car has NEVER been
> CHIPPED. The only aftermkt mods are a pair of
> Stratmosphere DVs (7k mi ago) and a SAMCO TBB (last
> week).
>
> The car has been sitting in my driveway and will
> continue to sit in my driveway until it's driven to
> the dealer on 4/16/03.
>
> Please note that the aforementioned problems are WELL
> KNOWN and DOCUMENTED (check AudiWorld guys) for early
> S4s (model yr Y2k, early 2001). So, I would NOT be so
> glib in my ownership of an S4.
>
> I DID purchase an aftermkt warranty - I guess I will
> find out how good it is - if there is a remaining
> balance after I settle with Audi.
>
> My reason for NOT BACKING DOWN as some of you have
> inferred that I should do (essentially because a
> "warranty deadline" is the end game in their
> interpretation), is because the problem with TURBOS on
> Y2k and early 2001 S4s is WELL DOCUMENTED.
>
> Audi has ALREADY settled claims. Settlements have been
> ALL ACROSS THE BOARD - which means some folks were
> tougher negotiators with Audi USA than others.
>
> The FACT that Audi Dealer was willing to settle for
> 50/50 w/o having my car in for diagnosis - means that
> Audi is WELL AWARE of the S4 Turbo problem - or else
> they would have told me to POUND SAND - GAME OVER
> !!!!!
>
> They DID NOT  - for you Legal Eagles on the Board !!!!
>
> They (the dealer) were willing to address and
> negotiate a KNOWN customer issue with early model S4s.
>
> Otherwise, I would NOT have a leg to stand on - if
> they had not already addressed claims for this very
> problem.
>
> So for those who infer that a warranty expiration is
> final - case closed (Ian, Uncle Wally/Walter), I beg
> to differ - if u and the manufacturer are dealing with
> KNOWN and documented (thru prior claims settlements -
> some after the "official warranty expiration period")
> defects in a product line.
>
> If I had a CHIPPED Car - I could see Audi taking a
> HARD LINE - because by running the turbos at a PSI
> outside of Audi recommended tolerances - I would be
> inducing turbo failure - I DID NOT.
>
> Those with chipped cars - I wish you luck- if you
> don't have your stock ECU to "swap back" when your
> turbos fail due to excessive boost levels.
>
> Then again, like Ian told me - You might get "lucky"
> (like I did with my Porsche) and not have turbo or
> head gasket failure during the life of your S4
> ownership.
>
> jy
>
> --- California Fields <cfields72 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
> >
> > Ian, the guy's car was having signs of failure
> > BEFORE 50k miles...so Audi
> > should warranty it if they're any good at
> > business/customer service. Anything
> > less and they're, in effect, "weasling out of it."
> > To have a strict deadline
> > on something that is gradual doesn't make sense to
> > me.
> > ------------------------------
> > Carter Fields, San Francisco
> > 2001.5, GIAC-X, Miltek 3" cat-back, Strat. shifter,
> > Strat. DVs, A-pillar boost
> > gauge
> > ------------------------------
> > >From: Ian McCloghrie
> > >Reply-To: ian at codrus.com
> > >To: j y
> > >CC: Bruce Mendel ,biturbos4
> > >Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped
> > S4) - Update
> > >Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:34:06 -0700
> > >
> > >On Apr 10, 2003 j y wrote:
> > > > So, that being said - in my opinion - it's is
> > > > unreasonable for a manufacturer to try and
> > weasle out
> > > > of a claim when the machine is just 2k mi over
> > the
> > > > warranty expiration - that is just TOO close -
> > like
> > >
> > >What "weaseling"? They promised you warranty
> > coverage until 3 years/50K
> > >miles, whichever came first (or 4 years if you have
> > an '01). If there
> > >are 50,001 miles on the car, well, that's more than
> > 50K, they are under
> > >no obligation whatsoever to cover repairs to your
> > car. This isn't a case
> > >of denying a warranty based upon some unrelated
> > trivial modification,
> > >it's open and shut. Anything Audi covers for you
> > comes out of the
> > >"good customer relations" budget.
> > >
> > >As for the lemon law -- there are very specific
> > guidlines for which the
> > >lemon law can be invoked. These guidelines vary
> > from state to state,
> > >but as far as I know, a single expensive failure
> > outside of the warranty
> > >period generally isn't one of them.
> > >
> > >--Ian
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