[BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) - Update

Sat Apr 19 09:02:42 EDT 2003

Warranty Acceptance Corp - next week they will be my
former warranty company. They don't specifically
exclude turbos - but they don't have wording that
includes them either - large gray area.

Audi contacted them and 'they will onlly cover my
turbo damage if it was caused by another engine
related part malfunction.' (my paraphrase)

I purchased it last month (be4 the infamous damaged
turbo situation I experienced). and I can get a full
premium refund if I cancel within 60 days.

jy

--- "Marc A. Abernethy" <mabernethy at lotteryusa.com>
wrote:
> JY,  What after market warranty company did you use?
>
> Marc
>
> j y wrote:
>
> > Carter & the list,
> >
> > My early model (11/99 build) 2000 Imola S4 has had
> the
> > following problems:
> >
> > * torn TBB (replaced by Audi @ 7k mi)
> > * leaking valve cover gasket (replaced by Audi @
> 48k
> > mi)
> > * warped rotors (replaced by Audi @ 32k mi)
> > * blown turbo (??? will know OFFICIALLY on
> 4/16/03)
> >
> > I am the original owner and the car has NEVER been
> > CHIPPED. The only aftermkt mods are a pair of
> > Stratmosphere DVs (7k mi ago) and a SAMCO TBB
> (last
> > week).
> >
> > The car has been sitting in my driveway and will
> > continue to sit in my driveway until it's driven
> to
> > the dealer on 4/16/03.
> >
> > Please note that the aforementioned problems are
> WELL
> > KNOWN and DOCUMENTED (check AudiWorld guys) for
> early
> > S4s (model yr Y2k, early 2001). So, I would NOT be
> so
> > glib in my ownership of an S4.
> >
> > I DID purchase an aftermkt warranty - I guess I
> will
> > find out how good it is - if there is a remaining
> > balance after I settle with Audi.
> >
> > My reason for NOT BACKING DOWN as some of you have
> > inferred that I should do (essentially because a
> > "warranty deadline" is the end game in their
> > interpretation), is because the problem with
> TURBOS on
> > Y2k and early 2001 S4s is WELL DOCUMENTED.
> >
> > Audi has ALREADY settled claims. Settlements have
> been
> > ALL ACROSS THE BOARD - which means some folks were
> > tougher negotiators with Audi USA than others.
> >
> > The FACT that Audi Dealer was willing to settle
> for
> > 50/50 w/o having my car in for diagnosis - means
> that
> > Audi is WELL AWARE of the S4 Turbo problem - or
> else
> > they would have told me to POUND SAND - GAME OVER
> > !!!!!
> >
> > They DID NOT  - for you Legal Eagles on the Board
> !!!!
> >
> > They (the dealer) were willing to address and
> > negotiate a KNOWN customer issue with early model
> S4s.
> >
> > Otherwise, I would NOT have a leg to stand on - if
> > they had not already addressed claims for this
> very
> > problem.
> >
> > So for those who infer that a warranty expiration
> is
> > final - case closed (Ian, Uncle Wally/Walter), I
> beg
> > to differ - if u and the manufacturer are dealing
> with
> > KNOWN and documented (thru prior claims
> settlements -
> > some after the "official warranty expiration
> period")
> > defects in a product line.
> >
> > If I had a CHIPPED Car - I could see Audi taking a
> > HARD LINE - because by running the turbos at a PSI
> > outside of Audi recommended tolerances - I would
> be
> > inducing turbo failure - I DID NOT.
> >
> > Those with chipped cars - I wish you luck- if you
> > don't have your stock ECU to "swap back" when your
> > turbos fail due to excessive boost levels.
> >
> > Then again, like Ian told me - You might get
> "lucky"
> > (like I did with my Porsche) and not have turbo or
> > head gasket failure during the life of your S4
> > ownership.
> >
> > jy
> >
> > --- California Fields <cfields72 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
> > >
> > > Ian, the guy's car was having signs of failure
> > > BEFORE 50k miles...so Audi
> > > should warranty it if they're any good at
> > > business/customer service. Anything
> > > less and they're, in effect, "weasling out of
> it."
> > > To have a strict deadline
> > > on something that is gradual doesn't make sense
> to
> > > me.
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Carter Fields, San Francisco
> > > 2001.5, GIAC-X, Miltek 3" cat-back, Strat.
> shifter,
> > > Strat. DVs, A-pillar boost
> > > gauge
> > > ------------------------------
> > > >From: Ian McCloghrie
> > > >Reply-To: ian at codrus.com
> > > >To: j y
> > > >CC: Bruce Mendel ,biturbos4
> > > >Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos
> (Non-Chipped
> > > S4) - Update
> > > >Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:34:06 -0700
> > > >
> > > >On Apr 10, 2003 j y wrote:
> > > > > So, that being said - in my opinion - it's
> is
> > > > > unreasonable for a manufacturer to try and
> > > weasle out
> > > > > of a claim when the machine is just 2k mi
> over
> > > the
> > > > > warranty expiration - that is just TOO close
> -
> > > like
> > > >
> > > >What "weaseling"? They promised you warranty
> > > coverage until 3 years/50K
> > > >miles, whichever came first (or 4 years if you
> have
> > > an '01). If there
> > > >are 50,001 miles on the car, well, that's more
> than
> > > 50K, they are under
> > > >no obligation whatsoever to cover repairs to
> your
> > > car. This isn't a case
> > > >of denying a warranty based upon some unrelated
> > > trivial modification,
> > > >it's open and shut. Anything Audi covers for
> you
> > > comes out of the
> > > >"good customer relations" budget.
> > > >
> > > >As for the lemon law -- there are very specific
> > > guidlines for which the
> > > >lemon law can be invoked. These guidelines vary
> > > from state to state,
> > > >but as far as I know, a single expensive
> failure
> > > outside of the warranty
> > > >period generally isn't one of them.
> > > >
> > > >--Ian
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