[BiturboS4] BLOWN Turbos - Can I Assume That Audi Is Providing Me With Updated S4 Turbos ?

j y jimnetpa at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 19 09:14:01 EDT 2003


Hi Ron,

Sorry - I did not get your previous emails. I am very
familiar with AWE (they are about 10 mi from my Philly
area home).

I appreciate your offer - but I would prefer to have
Audi install the updated turbos /plumbing in my Y2K
S4.

Since I think it's a manufacturer's defect - I want
Audi to have 'some skin in the game.' Purchasing used
K03 turbos lets Audi off the hook in my opinion.

Thanks again.

jy

--- R Sherowsky <sherowsky at adelphia.net> wrote:
> jy
>
> I e-mailed you a couple of times, but didn't get a
> response so I don't know
> if you didn't get the e-mails or just weren't
> interested.
>
> Anyway, my 2002 S4 is at AWE now undergoing major
> surgery.  You can have the
> K03's from my car for $200 (for both) if you want.
> The car had less than
> 1300 miles on it when they were removed.  I really
> don't want to have to
> cart them back to Virginia.  I will be at AWE
> Tuesday afternoon.  If you are
> interested, you can pick up them up at AWE then have
> them inspected anywhere
> you like.  AWE has said they do not want to be
> involved in any third party
> parts sale (understandable) so I do not know if they
> would verify their
> condition or not.  That would be between you and
> them or any other place you
> had them checked out.
>
> If anyone else in the Philadelphia area is
> interested, let me know.  I would
> let other very lightly used stock parts go very
> cheaply as well; such as
> clutch, flywheel, intercoolers, etc.
>
> Ron
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "j y" <jimnetpa at yahoo.com>
> To: <adamschwartz at rcn.com>; <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] BLOWN Turbos - Can I Assume
> That Audi Is Providing
> Me With Updated S4 Turbos ?
>
>
> > Again - I will not consider paying $2700 unless
> it's
> > the updated turbos and plumbing.
> >
> > Yes, everyone is correct - Audi is sticking it to
> me
> > RETAIL - would u expect less from a car
> manufacturer.
> >
> > How YBH Audi broke it down to me - the turbos
> retail
> > for $1800 each - 21 hours labor = $1500 - taxes +
> > fluids/misc parts = $300 - roughly speaking the
> total
> > = $5400.
> >
> > As I mentioned in a previous post, I purchased a
> turbo
> > for my Porsche on ebay and it cost me $700
> > re-conditioned and retails for $1500.
> >
> > So, $1800 for the Audi K03s - may not be that out
> of
> > line.
> >
> > Also, I received quotes from local independent
> Porsche
> > shops to install the re-conditioned turbo, and the
> > going labor rate was $75 (that included AWE -
> since
> > they are local to me).
> >
> > Since I am paying HALF the LABOR on the S4 repair
> - my
> > effective labor rate is $35.71 for 21 hours.
> >
> > The estimated time to install the re-conditioned
> turbo
> > that i bought on ebay was 10 hrs (I even confirmed
> > this with the turbo's vendor - KoKeln - they
> vouched
> > for the install time).
> >
> > Again, taking this into consideration - 21 hrs for
> TWO
> > turbos is not totally unreasonable.
> >
> > $300 for taxes/misc is not excessive either -
> because
> > sales tax is 6% in PA ($5100 * 0.06 = $306).
> >
> > So, in my opinion, the price quote that received
> from
> > Audi is not really "WHACK", as my 19 yr college
> > freshman son would say.
> >
> > I'm open to suggestions/counter points.
> >
> > jy
> >
> > --- adamschwartz at rcn.com wrote:
> > > No problem.. I dont think I said my piece too
> well.
> > > Dont
> > > think I was too clear.
> > >
> > > But you know.. the price I saw of $4700ish on
> AWE's
> > > site was
> > > complete.. Actually it may not have included
> > > install, but
> > > definitely included software etc..
> > >
> > > What gets me about this whole thing is: Its nice
> > > that Audi is
> > > going to pay half. Very cool.. But $2700!!!
> Thats
> > > half? Thats
> > > what it should cost. Exactly.. go to a good
> > > independant shop
> > > and I bet you might even get it done for less,
> with
> > > them
> > > finding the parts for you.
> > >
> > > Still interested to know what the deal with the
> > > aftermarket
> > > warranty is. I have a warranty from
> > > warrantybynet.com, and in
> > > theory my turbo's are covered. They are supposed
> to
> > > be...
> > >
> > > -Adam
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Oh, I gotcha. Sorry.
> > > >
> > > >It's cool idea if you have to spend the money
> > > anyhow, but
> > > most likely he'll:
> > > >
> > > >1. Need other stuff to make it work (ECU sw,
> fuel
> > > rail. etc)
> > > and wind up
> > > >spending WAY more
> > > >
> > > >2. No warranty on K04s....whereas Audi will
> give
> > > him
> > > warranty of some sort
> > > >on the new turbos they put in, even if the rest
> of
> > > the car
> > > is out of
> > > >warranty.
> > > >
> > > >You can buy a pair of used K03's on ebay or the
> > > boards for
> > > around $600 for
> > > >both, then plus labor at good independent shop,
> > > that's
> > > probably
> > > >$1200......way less than what Audi is quoting
> even
> > > after the
> > > 50% discount
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