[BiturboS4] Re: BiturboS4 digest, Vol 1 #328 - 7 msgs

[j y]

hmmm....good ?

--- Jason Washing <jwashing at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Does anyone know if turbos are covered by the "audi
> assured" used car
> warranty. Just curious.
>
> Jason
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> Subject: BiturboS4 digest, Vol 1 #328 - 7 msgs
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> >    1. Re: S4 Blown Turbos - Update - Audi's
> Preliminary Diagnosis (Michael
> Kuriger)
> >    2. RE: My S4 Lemon Letter came (Erik J.
> Engstrom)
> >    3. Re: S4 Blown Turbos - Update - Audi's
> Preliminary Diagnosis (j y)
> >    4. RE: Tire time (James M. De Arras)
> >    5. Re: S4 Blown Turbos - Update - Audi's
> Preliminary Diagnosis (Kjos')
> >    6. Blown Turbo Implellers - Update - Dealing
> With AoA (j y)
> >    7. Re: S4 Blown Turbos - Update - Audi's
> Preliminary Diagnosis (Ti Kan)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:15:49 -0700
> > From: Michael Kuriger <michael at isuzu-mods.com>
> > To: j y <jimnetpa at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: biturbos4 <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> > Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] S4 Blown Turbos - Update
> - Audi's Preliminary
> Diagnosis
> >
> > impellers also break off when a dv or torn
> throttle body boot are left
> > unfixed.  since the boost will leak out, the
> wastegates will stay closed
> > and allow the turbos to overspin.  so if you have
> upgraded these parts
> > that should be a good thing.  Another thing that
> can blow them is
> > putting on a free flowing exhaust.  this releases
> backpressure that is
> > engineered into the system in order to throttle
> the turbos and prevent
> > overspin.  Since you have a totally stock s4,
> these are not the cause
> > for your problem but just wanted to let others
> know.
> >
> > My 2001 S4 is up to about 13,000 miles already and
> has a giac x chip and
> > awe duel exhaust.  I'm planning to put on the
> bigger turbos soon as well
> > once I figure out how to install them.
> >
> > -=Mike
> >
> >
> > j y wrote:
> >
> > >To The List,
> > >
> > >Well, I made that visit to my local Audi dealer
> today
> > >and I must admit, it was like going to the doctor
> to
> > >get a flu shot. You don't want that BIG needle
> headed
> > >your way - cause u know it's gonna hurt.
> > >
> > >To make a long story short - the official Audi
> > >diagnosis is blown impellers (spelling?) - both
> > >turbos.
> > >
> > >They have no clue as to how this could happen and
> want
> > >to break down the engine. They speculate that
> > >something got into the intake system but cannot
> figure
> > >out how it could have gotten by the intercoolers
> and
> > >damage both impellers. The siren (like a police
> car)
> > >sound that I hear are the distorted impellers
> > >according to the Audi tech.
> > >
> > >I inquired whether this impeller damage could
> have
> > >been as a result of excessive heat causing
> warpage and
> > >breaking off of the impeller blade(s) on the
> turbos?
> > >He would not say yes/or no. His answer was the
> same
> > >"need to break down the engine and investigate."
> > >
> > >Since there have been documented problems with
> the oil
> > >inlets on Y2K and early 2001 S4s - I figured that
> > >excessive heat damage due to inadequate oil flow
> was a
> > >potential culprit.
> > >
> > >Anyway, "the 'ballpark' estimate to replace two
> turbos
> > >with direct replacements + labor will about
> $6500"
> > >according to the Service Mgr.
> > >
> > >Again, the Service Mgr said "Audi's policy is to
> go
> > >50/50 with customers out of warranty as
> goodwill." He
> > >said "that Audi's rationale behind this is a
> > >pro-rating based on a 100k mi expected engine
> life."
> > >
> > >Thus, I have 52k mi  on my S4 - so Audi considers
> my
> > >engine to be 50% depreciated based on a 100k mi
> > >standard.
> > >
> > >I understand this but I still have a personal
> problem
> > >if the damaged impellers are a result of
> excessive
> > >heat or manufacturer's defect.
> > >
> > >I left my S4 at the dealer and said "that I would
> > >think about Audi's 50/50 offer." I will be asking
> for
> > >something in writing from the dealership
> confirming
> > >this 50/50 proposition.
> > >
> > >On another note, I replaced the Stratmosphere DVs
> with
> > >the OEM Bosch DVs before going to the dealer.
> Well,
> > >they noticed that the DVs had been swapped out -
> > >beause the OEM clamps on the Bosch DVs cannot be
> > >gotten in the aftermkt and I didn't keep the
> orginal
> > >OEM clamps.
> > >
> > >So, no OEM clamps on the Bosch DVs leaves one
> open for
> > >questioning at the dealer. Regardless, this
> little
> > >incident did not change their proposal to me.
> > >
> > >
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