[Biturbos4] S4 Alternative

[Philip Pace]

Yeah - the Chicago group is great! They've done about everything you can think
of (including a stage three A4, clutches, etc.). If you have enough beer, they
will make sure it gets done!!! And they're a bunch of track whores to boot.

--- robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ah crap! should i just keep the sho and continue the
> search for a suitable replacement?
> 
> this stuff flat out sucks. i feel for you guys. all
> the below listed stuff just sounds like the dealer is
> a jackass. i NEVER go to dealers. hate 'em like the
> plague.
> 
> so many more competent independent wrenches. half the
> price too.
> 
> the blown turbos worry me though. why did that happen?
> 
> honestly, your experiences only go to show me that
> extended warranties and dealers in fact suck. the
> warranty seems to only be a way to corner you into a
> situation where you have no choice but to go to the
> dealer. then they say your part is not covered under
> warranty. BUT, they already have your car torn down,
> so you better pay the cost to fix it.
> 
> i can't fix anything. but, i'm pretty good at research
> what's wrong first. so the mechanic can't charge you 3
> hours of time to diagnose the problem.
> 
> i try to find a good indy wrench. AND, join a car club
> for your model in your area. this way, you can find
> enthusiasts who are also gearheads. many more than
> willing to fix your car in exchange for cash (far
> cheaper than the dealer) or favors. dinner, beer,
> wine, strippers (kidding ;-)
> 
> see ya,
> Robby
> 
> --- Mike <michael at isuzu-mods.com> wrote:
> > My S4 has / had a few problems as well.
> > 
> > Santa Monica Audi
> > 
> > out of pocket repairs:
> > -blown turbo hose at about 10k (dealer did not fix
> > under warranty 
> > because they said it was due to outside influence)
> > $40 part, $800 to 
> > replace it
> > -broken tranny mount at about 10K (dealer did not
> > fix under warranty 
> > because they said it was due to outside influence)
> > $50 part, $400 to 
> > replace it
> > -tranny occasionally shifts hard at the wrong time,
> > usually when going 
> > uphil of the freeway. harsh enough to feel like the
> > tranny just fell 
> > out. (dealer found no code so no fix)
> > - AOA was no help here either. they said try another
> > dealer.
> > 
> > Van Nuys Keys Audi
> > 
> > -leaky headlight washer system (warranty).
> > -missing pixels in the dashboard display (warranty)
> > -warped brake rotors at every oil change (10k, 15k,
> > 20k) miles (warranty)
> > -blown turbos at 24k (warranty)
> > -blown turbos at 25K (warranty but had to fight)
> > -loose driver's side rear door window frame
> > (warranty)
> > -headlights changing their aim randomly (warranty)
> > -ash tray stuck closed due to putting coins in it
> > (dealer fixed for free)
> > -radio went out (warranty)
> > -freon leak (warranty)
> > -blower fan was noisy at low speed (warranty)
> > 
> > lots of other misc things too. I love the car, but
> > in the 10 months I've 
> > had it it's been in service for at least 3 months.
> > What a deal!
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > California Fields wrote:
> > 
> > > Adding to the list of frustrated Audi S4 owners is
> > me with the 
> > > follwing problems in 1.5 years:
> > >
> > > -leaky headlight washer system (replaced lines
> > and/or pump).
> > > -torn throttle body boots (monitored and replaced
> > on my own).
> > > -faulty diverter valves (replaced with 710Ns on my
> > own).
> > > -play in driver seat (motor or rails replaced).
> > > -flickering radio display (too lazy to fix).
> > > -missing pixels in the dashboard computer display
> > (too lazy to fix).
> > > -warped brake rotors at 28k miles (resurfaced).
> > > -squeaky steering wheel (steering tube replaced).
> > > -**rough engine idle with occasional check engine
> > light....cylinder 5 
> > > misfire DTC....been in the shop 3 times for
> > several days/weeks at a 
> > > time....still misfiring.
> > >
> > > The last one is the annoying one. I've had the car
> > in the shop for 
> > > over 4 weeks total (3 separate occasions) on just
> > that problem. Dealer 
> > > can't fix it. This, even after replacing nearly
> > everything possible 
> > > (fuel injectors, spark plugs, MAF, cylinder head,
> > decarbonization, 
> > > etc.). Not sure what to do at this point. Getting
> > fed up. I've located 
> > > at least 3 other Audi S4 owners that have had the
> > same problem 
> > > (fortunately for them, the cylinder head
> > replacement worked).
> > >
> > > The S4 is a super fun car to drive when it's
> > running well. It's hard 
> > > to find such beautiful body and interior design
> > coupled with 
> > > versatility and power. But it's such a pain in the
> > arse car when it's 
> > > not running properly....and for me (and I'm
> > guessing several others) 
> > > that's often. For $42k original retail price, the
> > above problems (in 
> > > my opinion) are inexcusable. The sad thing is, the
> > first 7 items in 
> > > the list are common among many S4 owners. I begin
> > to wonder if people 
> > > brainwash themselves into thinking "it's OK" to
> > have such problems 
> > > because they focus on the mad power of the biturbo
> > engine.
> > >
> > > If only Audi would build a RELIABLE car and back
> > it up with good 
> > > customer service, they'd be unbeatable.
> > >
> > > Cal.

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