[Biturbos4] S4 Alternative

[robert weinberg]

ah crap! should i just keep the sho and continue the
search for a suitable replacement?

this stuff flat out sucks. i feel for you guys. all
the below listed stuff just sounds like the dealer is
a jackass. i NEVER go to dealers. hate 'em like the
plague.

so many more competent independent wrenches. half the
price too.

the blown turbos worry me though. why did that happen?

honestly, your experiences only go to show me that
extended warranties and dealers in fact suck. the
warranty seems to only be a way to corner you into a
situation where you have no choice but to go to the
dealer. then they say your part is not covered under
warranty. BUT, they already have your car torn down,
so you better pay the cost to fix it.

i can't fix anything. but, i'm pretty good at research
what's wrong first. so the mechanic can't charge you 3
hours of time to diagnose the problem.

i try to find a good indy wrench. AND, join a car club
for your model in your area. this way, you can find
enthusiasts who are also gearheads. many more than
willing to fix your car in exchange for cash (far
cheaper than the dealer) or favors. dinner, beer,
wine, strippers (kidding ;-)

see ya,
Robby

--- Mike <michael at isuzu-mods.com> wrote:
> My S4 has / had a few problems as well.
> 
> Santa Monica Audi
> 
> out of pocket repairs:
> -blown turbo hose at about 10k (dealer did not fix
> under warranty 
> because they said it was due to outside influence)
> $40 part, $800 to 
> replace it
> -broken tranny mount at about 10K (dealer did not
> fix under warranty 
> because they said it was due to outside influence)
> $50 part, $400 to 
> replace it
> -tranny occasionally shifts hard at the wrong time,
> usually when going 
> uphil of the freeway. harsh enough to feel like the
> tranny just fell 
> out. (dealer found no code so no fix)
> - AOA was no help here either. they said try another
> dealer.
> 
> Van Nuys Keys Audi
> 
> -leaky headlight washer system (warranty).
> -missing pixels in the dashboard display (warranty)
> -warped brake rotors at every oil change (10k, 15k,
> 20k) miles (warranty)
> -blown turbos at 24k (warranty)
> -blown turbos at 25K (warranty but had to fight)
> -loose driver's side rear door window frame
> (warranty)
> -headlights changing their aim randomly (warranty)
> -ash tray stuck closed due to putting coins in it
> (dealer fixed for free)
> -radio went out (warranty)
> -freon leak (warranty)
> -blower fan was noisy at low speed (warranty)
> 
> lots of other misc things too. I love the car, but
> in the 10 months I've 
> had it it's been in service for at least 3 months.
> What a deal!
> 
> Mike
> 
> California Fields wrote:
> 
> > Adding to the list of frustrated Audi S4 owners is
> me with the 
> > follwing problems in 1.5 years:
> >
> > -leaky headlight washer system (replaced lines
> and/or pump).
> > -torn throttle body boots (monitored and replaced
> on my own).
> > -faulty diverter valves (replaced with 710Ns on my
> own).
> > -play in driver seat (motor or rails replaced).
> > -flickering radio display (too lazy to fix).
> > -missing pixels in the dashboard computer display
> (too lazy to fix).
> > -warped brake rotors at 28k miles (resurfaced).
> > -squeaky steering wheel (steering tube replaced).
> > -**rough engine idle with occasional check engine
> light....cylinder 5 
> > misfire DTC....been in the shop 3 times for
> several days/weeks at a 
> > time....still misfiring.
> >
> > The last one is the annoying one. I've had the car
> in the shop for 
> > over 4 weeks total (3 separate occasions) on just
> that problem. Dealer 
> > can't fix it. This, even after replacing nearly
> everything possible 
> > (fuel injectors, spark plugs, MAF, cylinder head,
> decarbonization, 
> > etc.). Not sure what to do at this point. Getting
> fed up. I've located 
> > at least 3 other Audi S4 owners that have had the
> same problem 
> > (fortunately for them, the cylinder head
> replacement worked).
> >
> > The S4 is a super fun car to drive when it's
> running well. It's hard 
> > to find such beautiful body and interior design
> coupled with 
> > versatility and power. But it's such a pain in the
> arse car when it's 
> > not running properly....and for me (and I'm
> guessing several others) 
> > that's often. For $42k original retail price, the
> above problems (in 
> > my opinion) are inexcusable. The sad thing is, the
> first 7 items in 
> > the list are common among many S4 owners. I begin
> to wonder if people 
> > brainwash themselves into thinking "it's OK" to
> have such problems 
> > because they focus on the mad power of the biturbo
> engine.
> >
> > If only Audi would build a RELIABLE car and back
> it up with good 
> > customer service, they'd be unbeatable.
> >
> > Cal.
> >
> >
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