[Biturbos4] Bilstein Sports or Koni Yellows?

r harout carrera3_2 at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 21 10:58:53 EDT 2005 

Looking for input.. Bought this car with eibach
springs and koni yellow shocks installed. Never driven
an S4 before this, so I'm not sure how it rides stock.

Well, I had a major rattling coming from the right
rear. I knew about this when I bough the car, and the
guy I bought it from said it was the right rear upper
control arm.

Out of sheer laziness I took the car to the Audi
dealer (it is simply way to much work to find a good
shop in MA that can look at your car within a 3 week
timeframe).

$500 later, same rattle. The service guy said the
rattle is still there becasue the rear trut is bad).

In other words, they took my word for it and probably
never drive the car.

Called dealer and complained. And to my surprise, they
offered to install a set of shocks in the car for
free--or to replace the old control arm and get my
money back.

So. I'm going for the shocks--and might as well have
them all done since they're footin' the bill.

Now I need to make a choice--Bilstein sports with the
eibachs or replace the yellows (which seem to be much
more expensive?)

$450 for a set of bilsteins (4) and $600 for a set of
yellows.

Thoughts suggestions--? Anyone know which one rides
better, worse?

thanks



--- Todd Sager <todd at awe-tuning.com> wrote:

> We're a BorgWarner Distributor and currently have
> genuine RS4 K04 turbo 
> sets in stock.  We also have different GIAC software
> stages/fueling that 
> can be run with them.  Please contact us for more
> info.
> 
> At one time we were experimenting with hybrid RS4
> turbos, using a KKK 
> supplier overseas.  We were using RS6 based
> internals.  We never had a 
> failure with them, but the turbines were so large,
> with clipped fins, 
> that significant torque was sacrificed in exchange
> for 20-30hp near 
> redline.  The powerband was more normally aspirated
> feeling in nature, 
> without that big power hit down low, but with a
> 72-7500 rev limit 
> (highest we felt comfortable with on a stock
> engine), these turbos were 
> just beginning to hit their stride.  They also liked
> a couple more PSI 
> of boost than what we run on the RS4 K04s, which we
> also were not 
> comfortable with on a stock engine.
> 
> Honestly, for US style driving on stock S4 engines,
> it is hard to beat 
> the stock RS4 K04s.  Plus, the hybrids we were
> dealing with came at a 
> $1500 premium per set over the RS4 ones...
> 
> 
> j y wrote:
> 
> >Based on my trolling of AudiWorld - many of the K04
> hybrids have been troublesome.
> > 
> >Unless you are purchasing new K04 turbos from a KKK
> dealer/distributor, I would be wary of anything else
> (re-built, re-manufactured) that aftermkt vendors
> are pushing these days. Too many turbo failures. You
> just don't know the quality of the machine shops
> that these vendors are using. 
> > 
> >I know that Achtuning had BIG issues with the front
> mounted IC, because the mfg source was a "guy in his
> garage (DUH Engineering)" - YES - really! So, if
> they would go this route for ICs, can u not be
> suspect of their turbo suppliers, especially if they
> are selling re-built K04s, or K04/K03 hybrids. 
> > 
> >Just my $.02.
> >
> >r harout <carrera3_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >i saw a set listed on ebay brand new for $2700
> >
> >--- damon03 at ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Where do you suggest buying K04s?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Damon
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: steadi at comcast.net
> >>Sent: Sep 13, 2005 10:12 PM
> >>To: Philip Pace 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Cc: Biturbo 
> >>Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] Turbo reliability
> >>
> >>
> >>On Sep 13, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Philip Pace wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Sorry for the delayed post. I bought the
> Achtuning
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>ones. Probably a 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>mistake.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Did you get the "Zero Clearance" crap they are
> >>selling? Nothing but 
> >>trouble with those. Besides the ZC coating only
> >>"last's" for less 
> >>then 50,000 miles
> >>
> >>Oh did I mention that the Achtuning re-builder
> >>doesn't balance it's 
> >>turbos?
> >>
> >>My Advice is first NOT to do Biz with Achtuning
> and
> >>2nd to have them 
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> >>
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