[Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?

Miller, Chris chris.miller at infofoundry.com
Fri Oct 15 22:07:56 EDT 2004 

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-----Original Message-----
From: es2-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:es2-bounces at audifans.com] On
Behalf Of livinotte at cox.net
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:56 PM
To: Es2 at audifans.com
Subject: RE: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?

Hi guys.

First note

Are you still getting emails attachments from me?

I have excell log files if anyone is interested. I need to figure out
how to put them online so you don't have to get them in attachments
thought.

thanks
Josh


> 
> From: Matt twentyV <matt_20v at yahoo.com>
> Date: 2004/10/15 Fri PM 05:50:37 EDT
> To: "Miller, Chris" <chris.miller at infofoundry.com>,
livinotte at cox.net, 
>   Es2 at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> 
> When I found my bleed screw to be essentially a blob like mass of 
> corrosion, I just popped that heater hose off the firewall to complete

> the bleeding.  No need to completely remove it, just crack it off a 
> bit to "burp" it.
> -Matt
> 
> --- "Miller, Chris" <chris.miller at infofoundry.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Keep in mind that the temperature sender for the dash gauge is on 
> > the coolant manifold on the head, while the thermoswitch that 
> > activates the radiator cooling fan is on the radiator.  If you've 
> > got air blocking a passage and the radiator isn't getting hot, then 
> > the fan isn't going to go on regardless of the dash gauge reading.
> > 
> > The coupe originally had an air bleed screw near the firewall on the

> > coolant line to the heater core.  Unless that line is new, likely 
> > the screw has corroded and won't allow you to bleed the system of 
> > air without damaging the hose and requiring replacement.
> >  Since the bleed
> > screw is there, likely that is the cooling system high point.
> > 
> > Another option is to drive the car to a steep hill, and get the nose

> > up high.  A jack works too.  Real high. Then bleed the system with 
> > the new high point (top radiator hose, or lift the overflow bottle 
> > up high).
> > Chris
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: es2-bounces at audifans.com
> > [mailto:es2-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of livinotte at cox.net
> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:23 PM
> > To: Es2 at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > 
> > Hi ben
> > 
> > There is one wire that connects to the afterun relay via the engine 
> > compartment to the driver side harness.
> > 
> >
> http://www.urs4.com/logbook/RS2CQ/wiring/103_0331m.JPG
> > 
> > It's on that black connector.   Basically when the
> > after run system
> > turns on the relay in the engine harness J155. If I
> > remember right.
> > Sends a signal to the after run relay which triggers
> > the fan.  The
> > interesting this is that on the 7a cars it's
> > triggered via a ground
> > line.  On the 20vT it's triggered via a power feed. 
> > I didn't know this
> > at first and I have a funny feeling I killed the two
> > relays I have for
> > the afterun system.   
> > 
> > Thats not the problem thought.  Honest I am not
> > worried about the after
> > run system. With the car in the garage and idling
> > for a while the fan
> > should go on at 90 degree celcius.  Basically the
> > thermostat opens at 87
> > degrees and the fan turns on at 90 degrees.  Either
> > the thermostat is
> > not working properly or the fan setup is not working
> > properly however I
> > tested the fan setup by grounding positions three
> > and 1 and 2 and 1 and
> > the fan turns on. I also removed the sensor and
> > heated it up and it also
> > worked.
> > 
> > Either there is still air in my system or my
> > thermostat shit it self on
> > me.   I am going to replace the thermostat when I
> > install the new fan.
> > Then take it from there.  
> > 
> > Off topic.
> > 
> > Are any of you guys familar with how a clutch setup
> > works on a
> > boxster(mid engine) or 911(rear engine)? Basically I
> > am wondering how it
> > engages when you push the pedal down.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Josh
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > From: Ben Klumper <bklumper at mdbworld.com>
> > > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri AM 10:56:59 EDT
> > > To: livinotte at cox.net,  Es2 at audifans.com
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > > 
> > > Hey Josh,
> > > 
> > > Do you have your notes on how you wired the 3b
> > cooling sensors (turbo 
> > > after run, mfts, etc) into the coupe? There might
> > be something that 
> > > was overlooked.
> > > 
> > > Ben
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <livinotte at cox.net>
> > > To: <Es2 at audifans.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hi everyone
> > > >
> > > > I bleed the system again.  I am finally getting
> > heat out of the 
> > > > heater
> > > core.  Thats the good news.  I didn't run it for
> > long enough to be 
> > > completely satified that everything is in check
> > but it did hold it's 
> > > temp on the coolant gauge and the turbo did not
> > smoke. I am catching a
> > 
> > > cold and I could handle the fever and being in the
> > garage. So I 
> > > figured I leave it at that and hopefully tomorrow
> > I will feel better 
> > > enough to spend more time with the coupe. Once
> > again the fan didn't
> > turn on at 90 degrees celcius.
> > > Which has me wondering about stuff. Tomorrow
> > should be the first time 
> > > I use vagscope if I finally can get the router to
> > work properly with 
> > > my sister's labtop.  I will attempt to save the
> > log and try to post
> > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you guys read up on S2 forums alot you will
> > notice they mention 
> > > > Castrol
> > > Rs 10w 60 all the time.  I couldn't find it in the
> > states and I now 
> > > found it. It's now called Tws motorsport.  You can
> > get it from the
> > > > Bmw stealerships:
> > > >
> > > > Castrol TWS Motorsport 83 12 0 029 683 1-litre
> > canister Castrol TWS 
> > > > Motorsport 83 12 0 029 684 60-litre canister
> > > >
> > > > I am currently using mobil 15w60 and it's a heck
> > of alot better than
> > 
> > > > any
> > > other oil I have used so far. I am hoping the
> > Castrol is even better.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > > P.S. the place finally shipped out my battery
> > box.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Peter Schulz <pcschulz at comcast.net>
> > > > > Date: 2004/10/13 Wed AM 10:41:57 EDT
> > > > > To: <livinotte at cox.net>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > > > >
> > > > > Josh:
> > > > >
> > > > > Follow what Mike recommended and wiggle the
> > fan harness to ensure 
> > > > > that
> > > you
> > > > > dont have an intermittent connection at the
> > fan.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did the write up on 20v.org for the fix...
> > > > > and PLEASE put a fuse on the fan ground lead
> > ala the 200 q20v
> > > > >
> > > > > -Peter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 01:50 AM 10/13/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hey guys.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I am having problems with getting the fan to
> > turn on.  I 
> > > > > >diagnosed it
> > 
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