[Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?

livinotte at cox.net livinotte at cox.net
Fri Oct 15 22:55:12 EDT 2004


Ic

Well here is a pic of what you can do with vagcom and vagscope.  I took a pic of my desktop and then picked what I needed.

http://members.cox.net/livinotte/logdata12.jpg

Cheers
Josh 

P.S. I sent an email before and I am not sure if matt is the only one to get it.  But I am making a ton of progress and I can't thank you guys enough for the help.

 
 
> 
> From: "Miller, Chris" <chris.miller at infofoundry.com>
> Date: 2004/10/15 Fri PM 10:07:46 EDT
> To: <livinotte at cox.net>, 
> 	<Es2 at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> 
> I think the audifans server does  not permit attachments.    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: es2-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:es2-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf Of livinotte at cox.net
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:56 PM
> To: Es2 at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> 
> Hi guys.
> 
> First note
> 
> Are you still getting emails attachments from me?
> 
> I have excell log files if anyone is interested. I need to figure out
> how to put them online so you don't have to get them in attachments
> thought.
> 
> thanks
> Josh
> 
> 
> > 
> > From: Matt twentyV <matt_20v at yahoo.com>
> > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri PM 05:50:37 EDT
> > To: "Miller, Chris" <chris.miller at infofoundry.com>,
> livinotte at cox.net, 
> >   Es2 at audifans.com
> > Subject: RE: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > 
> > When I found my bleed screw to be essentially a blob like mass of 
> > corrosion, I just popped that heater hose off the firewall to complete
> 
> > the bleeding.  No need to completely remove it, just crack it off a 
> > bit to "burp" it.
> > -Matt
> > 
> > --- "Miller, Chris" <chris.miller at infofoundry.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Keep in mind that the temperature sender for the dash gauge is on 
> > > the coolant manifold on the head, while the thermoswitch that 
> > > activates the radiator cooling fan is on the radiator.  If you've 
> > > got air blocking a passage and the radiator isn't getting hot, then 
> > > the fan isn't going to go on regardless of the dash gauge reading.
> > > 
> > > The coupe originally had an air bleed screw near the firewall on the
> 
> > > coolant line to the heater core.  Unless that line is new, likely 
> > > the screw has corroded and won't allow you to bleed the system of 
> > > air without damaging the hose and requiring replacement.
> > >  Since the bleed
> > > screw is there, likely that is the cooling system high point.
> > > 
> > > Another option is to drive the car to a steep hill, and get the nose
> 
> > > up high.  A jack works too.  Real high. Then bleed the system with 
> > > the new high point (top radiator hose, or lift the overflow bottle 
> > > up high).
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: es2-bounces at audifans.com
> > > [mailto:es2-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of livinotte at cox.net
> > > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:23 PM
> > > To: Es2 at audifans.com
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > > 
> > > Hi ben
> > > 
> > > There is one wire that connects to the afterun relay via the engine 
> > > compartment to the driver side harness.
> > > 
> > >
> > http://www.urs4.com/logbook/RS2CQ/wiring/103_0331m.JPG
> > > 
> > > It's on that black connector.   Basically when the
> > > after run system
> > > turns on the relay in the engine harness J155. If I
> > > remember right.
> > > Sends a signal to the after run relay which triggers
> > > the fan.  The
> > > interesting this is that on the 7a cars it's
> > > triggered via a ground
> > > line.  On the 20vT it's triggered via a power feed. 
> > > I didn't know this
> > > at first and I have a funny feeling I killed the two
> > > relays I have for
> > > the afterun system.   
> > > 
> > > Thats not the problem thought.  Honest I am not
> > > worried about the after
> > > run system. With the car in the garage and idling
> > > for a while the fan
> > > should go on at 90 degree celcius.  Basically the
> > > thermostat opens at 87
> > > degrees and the fan turns on at 90 degrees.  Either
> > > the thermostat is
> > > not working properly or the fan setup is not working
> > > properly however I
> > > tested the fan setup by grounding positions three
> > > and 1 and 2 and 1 and
> > > the fan turns on. I also removed the sensor and
> > > heated it up and it also
> > > worked.
> > > 
> > > Either there is still air in my system or my
> > > thermostat shit it self on
> > > me.   I am going to replace the thermostat when I
> > > install the new fan.
> > > Then take it from there.  
> > > 
> > > Off topic.
> > > 
> > > Are any of you guys familar with how a clutch setup
> > > works on a
> > > boxster(mid engine) or 911(rear engine)? Basically I
> > > am wondering how it
> > > engages when you push the pedal down.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Josh
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Ben Klumper <bklumper at mdbworld.com>
> > > > Date: 2004/10/15 Fri AM 10:56:59 EDT
> > > > To: livinotte at cox.net,  Es2 at audifans.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > > > 
> > > > Hey Josh,
> > > > 
> > > > Do you have your notes on how you wired the 3b
> > > cooling sensors (turbo 
> > > > after run, mfts, etc) into the coupe? There might
> > > be something that 
> > > > was overlooked.
> > > > 
> > > > Ben
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <livinotte at cox.net>
> > > > To: <Es2 at audifans.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi everyone
> > > > >
> > > > > I bleed the system again.  I am finally getting
> > > heat out of the 
> > > > > heater
> > > > core.  Thats the good news.  I didn't run it for
> > > long enough to be 
> > > > completely satified that everything is in check
> > > but it did hold it's 
> > > > temp on the coolant gauge and the turbo did not
> > > smoke. I am catching a
> > > 
> > > > cold and I could handle the fever and being in the
> > > garage. So I 
> > > > figured I leave it at that and hopefully tomorrow
> > > I will feel better 
> > > > enough to spend more time with the coupe. Once
> > > again the fan didn't
> > > turn on at 90 degrees celcius.
> > > > Which has me wondering about stuff. Tomorrow
> > > should be the first time 
> > > > I use vagscope if I finally can get the router to
> > > work properly with 
> > > > my sister's labtop.  I will attempt to save the
> > > log and try to post
> > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you guys read up on S2 forums alot you will
> > > notice they mention 
> > > > > Castrol
> > > > Rs 10w 60 all the time.  I couldn't find it in the
> > > states and I now 
> > > > found it. It's now called Tws motorsport.  You can
> > > get it from the
> > > > > Bmw stealerships:
> > > > >
> > > > > Castrol TWS Motorsport 83 12 0 029 683 1-litre
> > > canister Castrol TWS 
> > > > > Motorsport 83 12 0 029 684 60-litre canister
> > > > >
> > > > > I am currently using mobil 15w60 and it's a heck
> > > of alot better than
> > > 
> > > > > any
> > > > other oil I have used so far. I am hoping the
> > > Castrol is even better.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Josh
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. the place finally shipped out my battery
> > > box.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Peter Schulz <pcschulz at comcast.net>
> > > > > > Date: 2004/10/13 Wed AM 10:41:57 EDT
> > > > > > To: <livinotte at cox.net>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Es2] No radiator fan= wtf?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Josh:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Follow what Mike recommended and wiggle the
> > > fan harness to ensure 
> > > > > > that
> > > > you
> > > > > > dont have an intermittent connection at the
> > > fan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did the write up on 20v.org for the fix...
> > > > > > and PLEASE put a fuse on the fan ground lead
> > > ala the 200 q20v
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 01:50 AM 10/13/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Hey guys.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I am having problems with getting the fan to
> > > turn on.  I 
> > > > > > >diagnosed it
> > > 
> > === message truncated ===
> > 
> > 
> > 
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