I think on average I've heard the new A4 will debut in '02 or '03, but it will definitely be at an auto show before its production debut.... On a similar note, when it does make its debut.....I'll be able to get a '98 A4 1.8T for a nice price when the new ones come out. Model makeover = previous generation depreciation. : ) Dave Farrer '91 200 turbo