CGT O2 sensor thanks, now lifter noise

[Ameer Antar]

make sure you protect your connections and make sure they're sturdy. 
Usually the first thing to go in wiring is the stuff you chopped up....

tapping is caused by bad lifters. adding thicker oil will help quiet some 
lifters, but usually by the time you notice them, they're already gone, and 
will still be noisy w/ whatever oil or additive. that's only a temp. 
solution, b/c in winter you can't use thick oil and the tapping will only 
get worse. Live w/ it if it's not a big deal, but if it's really bad or you 
really want to do it, then replace the lifters. You can prolly get them for 
$7-9 each x 10 lifters= $80-100 w/ shipping. You need a few gaskets, but 
it's not a difficult job, and all you need to do is pull the cam.
http://www.pap-parts.com/ these can get some really good prices as well as 
thepartsconnection.

as far as oil, don't put additives. use a good oil and it should do its 
job. Additives can break down the balance of certain chemicals that prevent 
foaming and burning. I have a turbo and will only use Mobil 1, b/c it's 
fully synthetic and I can get it at the store. Synthetic is really a must 
for turbos, since oil is what cools the turbo which can cook conventional 
oil. But Mobil 1 would be a good choice for a non-turbo as well, b/c it's 
not only thicker at high temps, it's thinner at freezing temps. A system 
that is lubricated 95% of the time will last longer than a system 
lubricated 85% of the time. You can actually feel how easier it is to start 
in cold mornings, which is good news for bearings and lifters. I don't mean 
to start an oil thread, but I really think it's the best you can buy on the 
street.


At 09:34 PM 10/4/00, you wrote:
>--- "Craig D. Niederst" <niederst at telerama.com> wrote:
> > Although the Deutsch
> > filters were rated fairly well on the Mopar filter
> > test, I have bought a few
> > Mann 719/5 filters ("generic" OEM equivalent) for
> > future changes. What
> > weight of oil are members using in 5 cyl NA
> > applications to minimize lifter
> > noise? TIA.
>
>A coworker of the SO has an 86 5k that had horrible
>lifter tap.  Shitty orange oil filter.  Ask what oil
>he's using.  Some 10w30 trash.  Stuff looks like
>coffee.  719/5 filter and 20w50 (summer weight)
>Castrol GTX (personal dino favorite) solved it
>instantly.  Comes back about 10k later, saying it's
>tapping again.  Yeah, no sh*t!  I read on the list
>that Marvel Mystery Oil worked good for this.  Dumped
>a quart and drove for a half hour.  Another 719/5 and
>some 10w40 GTX.  No tapping.  Sold him 5 more Mann
>filters and told him when to change his oil.  No more
>lifter complaints.  Although I don't think this will
>work in all cases, alot of the noise is because cheap
>filters have no or bad anti-drain back valves that
>allow the oil to drain out of the lifters.  Also
>varnish from cheap, wrong grade, or too infrequent
>changes of oil contribute.  I think this is helped by
>solvents that flush these out.  I think full synth. is
>the best choice, but is expensive and removes deposits
>more slowly than chemical flushes.
>
>HTH
>Jim Accordino
>p.s.-I also read good things about the Deutsch
>filters.  Saw the cut-open comparo.  Have used them
>and been pleased.