[V6-12v] RE: pentoholics anonymous

[Nitz Karl-GKN001]

It's a pain in the a$$.  Hose is about $180 from Audi!!!  But it can be
done.  My car is a '92 100S.  See the previous info sent before...

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Hi David,

If you're replacing the same hose I was, it's gonna be a pain.  It can be
done without removing the brake booster, but it takes time.  The only
fitting you'll struggle with is that banjo bolt, so I'll concentrate on
that.

I first removed the airbox and attached oil breather hoses.  I also removed
the bracket holding the two sensor connections just to the left of the brake
booster (unplug the connectors and move them out of the way - they're for
one of the O2 sensors and one of the knock sensors, by the way).  I also
loosened the lower coolant hose from the back of the engine that goes to the
heat exchanger.  The ring clamp is right below the throttle body inlet.

To loosen the bolt, use a straight 19mm crescent wrench.  Mine was a combo
17/19mm one (it was a little short, but I managed - I recommend a longer,
straight 19mm crescent wrench).  I used a large pipe over the end of the
wrench to crack the banjo bolt loose.  Then loosen the bolt with the
crescent wrench.  Position the wrench to come down through the gap
immediately to the left of the vacuum booster.  It's slow (1/8 turn at a
time) and it sucks.

Remove the old hose.  Make sure that the curly bend and fitting from the new
hose are aligned like the old hose's were.  If not, bend the new hose banjo
fitting to match the angle (this makes aligning the new bolt and starting
the new thread easier).  My new hose needed a different banjo bolt and used
copper or aluminum gaskets instead of the old hose's o-ring setup.  This is
a further pain in the a$@.

Put the new banjo bolt and gaskets on the new hose's fitting.  Cut a rubber
band, and then tie it around the threads at the fitting (double knot and
leave long ends hanging out).  Feed the curly fitting back to the steering
rack and align the bolt with the hole.

Try to turn the banjo bolt and get the thread started into the steering
rack.  Begin cursing profusely as you try and jamb your hand in far enough
to turn the bolt.  If it doesn't turn in easy, don't force it; re-align and
try again.  You really don't want to cross-thread this bolt :)

Once the thread is started in the new hole, remove the rubber band by
pulling on the loose ends until it snaps.  
Make sure all the rubber band is off of the threads before tightening
further.  Tighten the bolt using the crescent wrench; it's slow - it sucks.

Once that bolt is tight, attach the other end (when you first remove this
end, wrap the metal-hose end from the steering pump with plastic and secure
it with a rubberband - this will minimize the amount of fluid that leaks
from this junction and onto the motor/ground/everything else in the way) and
reinstall all the other parts.  Add Pentosin, start the engine, crank the
wheels lock to lock a few times, add more Pentosin and you're done.

All told, it took me around 6 hours.  Hopefully, it will take you less.
Extremely helpful: if you have a willing/competent youth with slender arms
to start the banjo bolt threads for you...I didn't :(

Best of Luck,
Karl

-----Original Message-----
From: David Torrey [mailto:RNE905 at Maine.Edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:35 PM
To: Nitz Karl-GKN001
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Hose.


Karl -

Tried to replace hose yesterday.  I found that the banjo fitting  is on the
back side of the rack.  Can't get at it without removing the rack.  Looks
like a big job.  I don't think I can replace it from under the car either.

The steering column shaft must have to come off also.  I don't know yet how
to get at it.  Maybe by removing the brake booster.  It's right in the way.

Regards

david


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Hoitink [mailto:rahoitink at students.wisc.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:16 PM
To: William Magliocco; v6-12v at audifans.com
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: [V6-12v] RE: pentoholics anonymous


The PO of my car had this line replaced once.  Then, about two weeks later,
it blew its fluid all over the engine compartment again.  His mechanic then
decided to replace it, along with a new PS pump.  Everything has been well
since.  It seems like a very straightforward procedure, and I'm sure the
only reason the PO didn't do it himself was lack of time or know-how.

-Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-admin at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
Behalf Of William Magliocco
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 2:51 PM
To: v6-12v at audifans.com
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: pentoholics anonymous



You see, I drink so much of that green elixr called
Pentosin that he says its too damned expensive to
drive me around until the HP hose gets changed.


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