Time to think about snow tires

larry leung l.leung at juno.com
Tue Oct 10 19:10:09 EDT 2000


My experience with Michelin Artic Alpins on an Autobox equipped Subie Legacy AWD, no ABS was that they seemed to work well in the dry, but were rather scary in the snow. They had good traction taking off (in spite of Subie's slip first, then fire up the rears version of AWD)but the cornering was very touchy, with little feel. Braking was okay at best. All I've recently had on either my 4KQ or my 200Q have been Kelly Pacemark snows, which seemed MUCH better. Had the traction, and good cornering grip, with much better feedback than the ALpins. Braking was also much better. Just not as good in the dry as the Alpins. Not totally endorsing the Pacemarks, more a commentary on the ALpins. I do intend to try Hakka NRW's this time around, as I'm no longer in the heavy snow belt, so I'd guess Q's would get killed by so much dry driving. 

LL - NY

------Original Message------
From: Paul Meyers <paul.meyers at citrix.com>
To: 'Sean Ford' <audi_92_100cs at yahoo.com>, quattro at audifans.com
Sent: October 10, 2000 8:53:40 PM GMT
Subject: RE: Time to think about snow tires


It's Michelin Arctic Alpins and they are wonderful tires. I used them all
last year in the snow in Utah, up to the ski resorts and back and forth to
work. I'm sure Hakkas are nice too, just my experience. I think I paid
around $75 per at my local Discount Tires (205/60/15). Because they use a
softer rubber compound, you will notice a fall-off in cornering performance
compared to the Pirelli 6000s I run in the summer. Otherwise, they're very
nice for snows.

Paul Meyers 
Gray 87 5KCSTQ 1.8bar eurolights fuchs 145 kM, needs loom transplant 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Ford [mailto:audi_92_100cs at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:21 PM
To: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Time to think about snow tires


All,

Since I now have 2 sets of wheels for my '92 100cs, I'd like to mount
up dedicated snow tires on the oem 15" wheels.

I'm thinking Hakka's, and who isn't? Though I may go Michelin Pilot
Alpin (or is it Pilot Artics, don't remember). 

The question of the day seems to be, where is a good place to find
Nokian Hakka's? My local Direct Tire has them in 195/65/15 for $109
each, total of $520 for a mounted set of 4. Does anyone know of a
better source for these tires?

=====
Sean Ford
audi_92_100CS at yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/seanford.geo
'92 Audi 100CS 5-spd non-q
'00 Triumph Daytona 955i
'89 Suzuki Katana 600

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