Just to throw my stuff in the mix. Friend: 98 A4tq stick Wife: 98.5 A42.8q auto Mich: 01 S4 stick wagon Basically, the cars are all the same. There is no difference.... ===== Derek Daily dtdaily at yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/