Earlier, Dave Head said: >I keep an 18" piece of rebar on the floor next to my driver's seat for situations like this. My "attitude adjustment tool" is a 4 D cell Mag Lite that fits perfectly between the driver's seat and the door on a Type 44. Nice non slip knurled grip, helps them "see the light"... -Steve Jensen 87 5kcstq 87 5kcstqw