Ring Any Bells?
Peter Berrevoets
pjberr at home.com
Wed Feb 14 00:42:52 EST 2001
Had a related conversation regarding this earlier this eve.
If the distributor has been removed before, double check the positioning of
all the components as per the timing set-up in the Bentley.
If the rotor and mark on the distributor line up and it's still running
rough, pull the distributor up and rotate the rotor one tooth then reseat.
Align the marks and try again.
It seems that the position of the rotor in the drive teeth makes a
differance.
Proceed with caution, but HTH!
Peter Berrevoets
1990 200TQ
Toronto, Canada
http://frontpage.home.net/pjberr/
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: quattro-admin at audifans.com
> >[mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
> >Behalf Of James Marriott
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:04 AM
> >To: Kaklikian, Gary; 'Charles G. Alday'; 'Peter Berrevoets'
> >Cc: 1 Quattro List (E-mail)
> >Subject: Re: Ring Any Bells?
> >
> >
> >Haudi,
> >
> >When my car suffered from this (intermittent, still ran fine),
> >our North-American Audi-demi-god ScottMo suggested tweaking with
> >the distributor location. There's a "window" that the ECU checks
> >for agreement betwixt the halls on the distributor and the crank
> >(TDC pin). If it's outside the window, this code might pop. The
> >fix: rotate the distributor ~5 degrees from its present location.
> >Drive for a few weeks (if it starts). Code? Rotate 10 degrees the
> >other way. Naturally, YMMV, but it worked for me.
> >
> >cu, James Marriott
> >'87 4kq (alias "late-B2 90q"), 180k
> >'89 200q (MC1/MAC11-C, ProconTen/no bag), 131k
> >Boise, ID, USA http://www.webpak.net/~marriott/
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Kaklikian, Gary <Gary.Kaklikian at compaq.com>
> >To: 'Charles G. Alday' <calday at umich.edu>; 'Peter Berrevoets'
> ><pjberr at home.com>
> >Cc: 1 Quattro List (E-mail) <quattro at audifans.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 2:13 PM
> >Subject: RE: Ring Any Bells?
> >
> >
> >> I've a been getting an intermittent "check engine light",
> >typically when
> >> accelerating under boost. No noticeable driveability issues.
> >Light goes off
> >> when close throttle and then cruise at part throttle. Pulled
> >the "hall
> >> sending unit" code (MAC14) - 2113 . Problem seems to reoccur
> >periodically,
> >> and yes I've cleaned the hall sender connector contacts.
> >>
> >> So does 2113 necessarily point to the hall sending unit
> >signal? Can it
> >> indicate other problems with the low voltage ignition circuit
> >or other ,
> >> possibly mechanical, problems with the distributor? Someone
> >even suggested
> >> a high tension problem, e.g, shorting coil wire, could trigger
> >the 2113.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Gary Kaklikian
> >> 86 4ktq
> >> 92 S4
> >>
> >>
> >> > ----------
> >> > From: Peter Berrevoets[SMTP:pjberr at home.com]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:51 AM
> >> > To: 'Charles G. Alday'
> >> > Cc: 1 Quattro List (E-mail)
> >> > Subject: RE: Ring Any Bells?
> >> >
> >> > Distributor.
> >> >
> >> > Intermitent fault, can be repaired but you have to
> >disassemble the
> >> > distributor by driving or drilling out the pin in the drive
> >gear. No new
> >> > pin
> >> > is available and you will have to source a clevis pin to
> >replace it. Bring
> >> > in the old hall sender to a bosch dealer and he can get you
> >the part.
> >> >
> >> > HTH - BTDT
> >> >
> >> > Peter Berrevoets
> >> > 1990 200TQ
> >> > Toronto, Canada
> >> > http://frontpage.home.net/pjberr/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > > >From: quattro-admin at audifans.com
> >> > > >[mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
> >> > > >Behalf Of Charles G. Alday
> >> > > >Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:57 AM
> >> > > >To: quattro at audifans.com
> >> > > >Subject: Ring Any Bells?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Hello Everyone -
> >> > > >
> >> > > >I was driving down the road and the engine just died on my
> >> > > >'86 5KTQ. I
> >> > > >rolled into a parking lot and it would not restart. I
> >> > > >checked the fuses and
> >> > > >#24 "engine timing" was blown. I replaced it and it still
> >> > > >wouldn't start
> >> > > >and the fuse didn't blow again. I towed it home and there
> >> > > >it sat for almost
> >> > > >2 weeks. I would go out and try to start it and wiggle
> >> > > >wires, but no luck.
> >> > > >I checked the error codes - nothing. It was outside, so I
> >> > > >couldn't do alot.
> >> > > >I decided to make the effort to move it into the garage
> >and
> >> > > >had to roll it
> >> > > >back. For reasons I won't go into I hit the starter with
> >it
> >> > > >in gear to move
> >> > > >it a little - it then started. I let it run for awhile
> >and
> >> > > >checked the
> >> > > >error codes and got only "2113" - Hall sending unit. I
> >did
> >> > > >the whole check
> >> > > >of it in Bentley and everything checks out.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >A couple days before this last incident the engine died
> >> > > >right after leaving
> >> > > >home. I pulled over and it started right back up.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Does any of this ring a bell with anyone? Any
> >recommendations?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Thanks much.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Chuck
> >> > > >'86 5KTQ
> >> > > >'87 4KQ
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
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