89 200 quattro available cheap Toronto Ontario

Colin Barfoot cbarfoot1939 at home.com
Mon Jun 11 22:10:32 EDT 2001


Duncan,
The more I thought about it the more I agree!  I calle dback the service manager today and he explained it better - (or else I listened better).  Apparently the crankshaft bearing that supports the transmission input shaft failed and then gouged the input shaft which then allowed enough movement to prematurely wear out the clutch.  Makes much more sense now...but it still is bad news.  The dealer says they could replace the bearing from the transmission end without taking apart the bottom end...but I don't want to pay the labour rates.

Regards
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Duncan Thomson 
  To: Colin Barfoot 
  Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:35 AM
  Subject: Re: 89 200 quattro available cheap Toronto Ontario


  Colin,

  By input shaft do you mean the part that connects (via the clutch) to the engine output shaft, or the gear selector rod / selector fork mechanism (the part that moves when you move the gear shift?

  Oh, looking at your original post, looks like you do mean the input shaft... since it took out the clutch and flywheel... ummm... ouch!
  How the heck do you bend an input shaft... 

  As for the other driver, I can't see anyone but a true Mr Olympian managing it with the gear shift, even if the clutch was stuffed...
  I would guess that he just bent the selector rod or fork...

  I also wouldn't have thought a bent input shaft it would slowly get worse... sounds like a sudden catastrophic sort of failure...

  errr...  when it didn't select gears, did it make a grinding noise or just refuse to move through the gate...?

  I know, you're not looking for solutions here, but I'm curious to see what other listers make of this...

  In any case, you have my sympathy...
  Hope you're not Audi-less for too long...

  regards
  Duncan
    Dave,

    That was a Audian slip...
    It is the transmission "input shaft" that got bent not a transaxle half shaft.  I was just able to drive the car to the garage - but it was like driving without a clutch - shifting between all gears was possible as long as the revs were matched.  One of the other local Q drivers (a salesman at the dealer) said it had happened to him as well - though in his case the clutch went first and when he tried to jam the car into gear it did the bending...?

    The garage took it apart enough to assess the damage - then rolled the car out of the garage.

    I am looking into a lease of a Maxima SE or Passat 1.8T or V6 5 spd. to fit in the family wife and children 11,7,5 but still be sporty and what I can afford at this point.  If I had time plus garage with tools I would consider finding the parts used and repairing it myself... 

    Regards
    Colin
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: David Head 
      To: Colin Barfoot ; qlist 
      Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:34 AM
      Subject: Re: 89 200 quattro available cheap Toronto Ontario


      Those just don't go together. The first/reverse problem is usually caused by a bad 3.00 bushing in the linkage. Takes about an hour or so to replace. Can you get it into other gears? If so, then your clutch/TO etc aren't likely bad. 
      A bent half shaft will give big vibration problems which could cause a wheel or transaxle bearing to go bad - but affect the clutch -  this just doesn't go together... You could get a used half shaft cheap at any number of places, especially if the CV joint condition doesn't matter. 
      ).

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