> Thats my thought to. Damn. What a PITA. It SHOULDN't Come > loose, but could. ANd that scares me. it won't come loose. powder is rugged as hell, and remember, it's baked on at 400 deg. F - it's oil temp proof. my subframe isn't showing any chipping or wear after 3 years. -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/ http://www.humanthoughts.org/