Ignorant boy racers Was: Lincoln LS

[Rave Racer]

        I agree completely with most of what you say here.  However I also
somewhat agree with what you say here.
        First, I've owned GM's that were fantastic cars, but large.  They
are comfortable cruisers.  This is not all that they can make, but this is
what I feel they make well.  I owned a 1989 Olds Delta 88 coupe, and a 1988
Buick LeSabre T-Type.  Essentially the same car, but then again so are alot
of them.  Each was electronically fuel governed at 170KPH.  Some may say
that "Electronically Fuel Governed" goes without saying, but I this is not
the only way to do it.  I learned to drive on my parents Ford Aerostar and
it was governed in the rear diff with some sort of Mechanical setup!!  Old
technology.

        Driver experience is always a factor.  I don't directly try to
compare automakers.  Honda civics are well known as a reliable automobile
for the Mechanically uninclined.  For Boy Racers, the Civic is a relatively
inexpensive way to have a trick looking car that is quick in the turns.  The
problem is that the Civics I was racing were surprised by their apparent
lack of ability when it comes to keeping up with a 15 year old, marginally
road worthy sedan.  Which is the next point.
        Obviously, as we are all here, Audi's are not the most reliable
vehicles on the road.  Ford had it's Pinto, Toyota had it's early MR2, Audi
has it's Automatic trannys.
        The point here is that my attack was not directed at Honda, but at
the Boy Racers who insist on being ignorant of their cars and their own
capabilities.  I drive a stock 2.2L 10V Audi Quattro, well known as one of
the most underpowered of the lineup.  I harbor no illusions toward my car, I
know what it does, and I am well aware that I still haven't grasped the full
complexity of driving Performance 4WD, But when someone pulls up to a light
and starts making fun of my ride, loses, makes fun of my ride again, and
continues this for two more stop lights.  I don't even know why they bother
to buy and tune such a car unless they are going to do it right.

    I think I'll throw out my flame suit now.
                                            Pete.

> Not positive about Fords, but he could have been bumping up against his
> computer governed speed limiter. I know most GM makes have them...so much
> for driving excitement!
>
> I'm sure the level of driver experience also had something to do with it.
> Most drivers out there who brag about their prowess behind the wheel, or
> drive wildly on the road, don't know even the basics of car control.
>
> As for Rave Racer's comments...to offer a rebuttal....
> I own an American (GM) car, a Japanese (Honda) car, and a German (Audi)
> car. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. You can't directly compare
> some of these cars. I love my Honda CRX Si, which is my current project
> car. It is fast, handles superbly, and entertaining like hell. Some of you
> may not like what I'm about to write, but Honda's level of reliability
> should shame any Audi engineer. With the mountain of work my 200-TQ needs,
> Audi reliability is a magnitude below Japanese reliability.
>
> But I wouldn't put my CRX up against, say a Mustang Cobra and not expect
to
> be eating dust during a street drag. It's like showing up for a gun fight
> with a knife. But in today's car environment, the younger generation seems
> a bit ignorant. They lack common sense and seem close minded. They think
> they know all there needs to know and can't be taught any more. They talk
> trash. They know nothing else but their Civic Si's, pimp it out and slow
it
> down with silly wings and 18" wheels, and egg on street races, get beat or
> worst kill someone. This has given the more serious Japanese enthusiasts a
> bad rep. I, being one of them, can say we do not support or condone them.
>
> I don't make it my business to put down any and all types of cars that are
> made exclusive from the origin of my chosen car. I like my Audi, and I
like
> my Honda...I get along with my GM, but that's another story.
> You will find that there are some finely custom crafted Hondas out there
> that can easily outrun an Audi. And vice versa.
>
> Don't let an encounter with one idiot with a Civic result in a blanket
> statement like your, "What's with it with these Jap, /'Murican
> cars....sewing machines...etc." You crossed paths with an idiot driver,
not
> an idiot car.
>
> It would be no different than if all who came across the youngster on the
> audiworld forum who recently crashed his '92 100CS and blames the car when
> he didn't service his brakes, to conclude, "What's with these kraut barges
> and their unintended acceleration problems?"
>
> Will
>
>
>
> At 10:09 AM 5/6/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >Anyone have the performance figures for the V-6 ones of these?
> >
> >Had a little playtime with one yesterday on I-287 in Westchester NY, and
> >I can't believe that it could have been with the V-8 model (according to
> >C+D, 0-60 in 7.4, 0.81G's cornering) 'cuz I just can't imagine that I
> >could have had that easy a time with one when all I have is a 200Q with a
> >shimmed WG spring that still reads (dash gauge only) 1.4 bar at full
> >boost and A4 16" sport wheels and Kumhos.
> >
> >LL - NY
>
> --
> Regards,
> Will
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