[V8] Re: [urq] RIP SC300 (LAC)

[Tim Sexton]

Isn't one of the things that make our Audi's better than the Jap. cars
the longevity you can still expect from a properly modified I5?  I can't
imagine that a 600hp supra is going to last much more than a year at
those hp levels.
Also, I think that the people, meaning professional Audi tuners, here in
the states, as a general rule overprice their parts/work.  I don't
believe Audi's are any harder to work on than a Supra and don't see why
us Audi people should pay a premium for such work.  Of course, this
comes from a guy who won't take his cars to a mechanic for anything save
tires and alignment, which even that gives me nightmares, so I speak
from an outside standpoint, knowing what others pay to have their cars
worked on.  If we don't like the dollars/hp ratio that we get out of our
Audi's, we should stop paying the people who set the dollars/hp ratio.
Just my .02.
Nomex: check  :)

Tim Sexton
Colorado Springs, Co


Brandon Rogers wrote:

> Forgive me for missing something, maybe, but.....so then what are we
> missing?  Bigger turbos-K27?, Bigger exhaust?  Are our base motors(I5
> turbo-10V or 20V) just not a good base for 550hp?  Is it the CIS
> (older cars)---hence Javad's EFI project?  Certainly the older 10V
> cars have restrictions.  I'm not looking to build a monster, but does
> anybody have a 10V car with over 275hp thats reliable and streetable?
> I think Scott has a good point, if I read it right-- Why aren't our
> efforts at tweeking yielding greater gains?  I ask again.....what are
> we missing? Brandon'84 urquattro 10V'98 A4 1.8T
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: QSHIPQ at aol.com
>      To: c123666 at earthlink.net
>      Cc: s-car-list at yahoogroups.com ; quattro at audifans.com ;
>      urq at audifans.com ; v8 at audifans.com
>      Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:58 PM
>      Subject: [urq] RIP SC300 (LAC)
>       Carl:
>      With all due respect, your post cracks me up.  What you
>      describe below could
>      be interchanged LSC300 for any >stock< 90-1cq or any S car
>      for that matter.
>      The brakes suck, the ride is cushy, the wheels are too
>      small, they are too
>      heavy - sounds real familiar to this audi guy.  That said,
>      I've driven and
>      been in the instructors seat in both the SC300 at the track,
>      and also a supra
>      TT.  The nacelles may be the same, but the best analogy I
>      can think of:  any
>      triathelete could live off a pigs heart too.  My evaluation
>      of the SC300 and
>      the Supra are so far away from each other, your post is
>      moot.  That said, the
>      tidbits of my visit are the Audi content, for there are many
>      on the S car
>      list that are trying their darndest to top 400hp (spending
>      exponentially more
>      money), and here you have cars (of which I personally saw 6
>      at this shop, and
>      another dozen kits ready to ship) with only 1/3 more
>      displacement doubling
>      the best S car dynoed HP.  It would appear that all the
>      posts I've seen on
>      5in turbo pipes and Monster MAF meters can be brought to a
>      baseline
>      comparison, that's all.  How many folks would fork over
>      5500bux to get a
>      540HP I5?  Hundreds have spent many times more and gotten a
>      lot less.  I know
>      cuz I've billed a few.
>
>      It's not rocket science, it appears to be the art and
>      science of the rocket.
>      I share your evaluation of the SC (I can send a sympathy
>      card to you too),
>      but remember a 800hp Supra TT is a supercar by any
>      definition, putting 800hp
>      into the SC3 makes it a really powerful POS.
>
>      Those that think that my posts are inappropriate to audi
>      lists, I say we
>      appear to be way behind the 8ball in current tweeking if 30%
>      increases in
>      displacement yields over double the comparative and
>      tweekable HP.  We ARE
>      missing something, and it has nothing to do with your SC300
>      experience.
>
>      My .02
>
>      Scott Justusson
>
>
>
>      -----------------------------------------------------
>      Carl writes:
>      You can do pretty much the same thing to Lexus SC300 coupes
>      as most of the
>      Supra stuff fits in the sc300 (same motor).  A popular
>      conversion is to
>      replace stock (crappy, very crappy tranny) tranny with the 6
>      speed from the
>      Supra; minor mods required to make it work.  There are also
>      supercharger and
>      turbocharger kits out there.  But, at the end of the
>      day...and I own one of
>      these coupes...what you have is a very fast...heavy...toyota
>      with lots of
>      nice options (and a nice stereo stock; the nakamichi option
>      is great but
>      stock is pretty darn good).  What you also have is a car for
>      which you
>      cannot buy decent shocks like Bilstein; stuck with
>      Japananese crap.  My car
>      is (stock) fairly quick but difficult to drive fast; you
>      need to concentrate
>      and must "want" to drive fast.  The steering effort becomes
>      rather hard
>      pushing the sled, 'er car, through a corner.
>