On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:00:09 +0100 (BST), you wrote: >3 years?....that has to be the longest lived cycle >battery ever, long overdue for a new one My old '87 5k had the original battery for 13 years. In my 200q20v, it lasted 11 years.. -- E. Spangen '90 Audi 200TQ 20v