Stoopid E-bayers...

Mon Aug 19 19:11:44 EDT 2002

I think Ebay wants the person committing the fraud to admitt it and give a
written statement to that effect; before they even want to consider
bothering with really checking if there is fraud going on..

The feedback rating helps but can be rigged.  Buying from someone on the
list seems to be quite a bit safer and less stoopidd.

Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Riebs / Audi V8" <AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com>
To: "Quattro Audi Group" <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Stoopid E-bayers...

Final response from E-bay. I´m done with this one...

----- Original Message -----
From: "eBay Customer Support" <rswebform at ebay.com>
To: "Michael Riebs" <mriebs at pathwaynet.com>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: eBay SafeHarbor Department MO91008 (KMM58786176V90982L0KM)

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to send us this additional information.

Michael, I do understand your concern about the possible connection
between these members.  Since eBay does take complaints like yours very
seriously, I hope that you understand our need for conclusive evidence
linking members before we can take action.  With that in mind, I have
found that there is not enough evidence to show that that members are
connected. However, I understand your concern about this situation, and
can reopen the investigation if any additional information can be
provided.

Michael, thank you for your continued concern about the safety of our
eBay community.

Regards,

Lilith
eBay Motors
SafeHarbor Investigations Team
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Hi Lilith,
Did you look into his former username, Hott Items?
I did some investigating of my own, and found the exact time he switched
from one username to another:

His last auction as "Hott Items" user name:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849396657

His first auction as "joeanthony1" user name:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1850252678

There! It's the same guy, with 12 complaints, doing business under a
different user name.
Here are all the items he sold in the past 30 days under the old  "hott
items" user name:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItem
s&us
erid=hott_items+&include=0&since=30&sort=8&rows=0

Check it out!

If it's blatantly obvious to us regular outsiders, then you
professionals at
E-bay ought to be able to see it too!

Thanks.

Michael L. Riebs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "eBay Customer Support" <rswebform at ebay.com>
To: "Michael Riebs" <mriebs at pathwaynet.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:59 PM
Subject: eBay SafeHarbor Department MO91008 (KMM58622129V92395L0KM)

Hello,

Thank you for writing to eBay to notify us of this situation.

I understand your concern about this member's listings on our site.
However, in accordance with our site policies, I have found that there
is not enough evidence to show that a violation has taken place.
However, I understand your concern about this situation, and can reopen
the investigation if any additional information can be provided.

Thank you for helping to keep eBay a fun and safe place to trade.

Regards,

Lilith
eBay Motors
SafeHarbor Investigations Team
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Form Message
Subject: Please investigate a current listing for possible fraudulent
activity. 52010384 #US $MO RD1
Item: 1850221886
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Actually, it's the brand new member you should be investigating, not
every one of the 1503 items he has for sale, all of which sound
questionable if you ask the 700+ members of the Audifans mailing list.
A brand new member:
joeanthony1 (1)
Member since: Tuesday, Aug 06, 2002
and 1503 items for sale, all ending on the very same day, all of which
are seemingly bogus performance parts for various car makes.
Hope we're all wrong about this guy.
Comments from our list:
>> WOW!
>> Words fail me on this one. Check out his other
>> auctions too....WTF?
>> Mike
> Damn, 1503 items by that guy, most of them
> ending the same day.  The sad thing is people
> are bidding on them.  Get all the money for all
> that stuff, and skip town, what a dick.  The
> only thing I see in there that might be real is
> a performance chip. and judging by the other
> items, I doubt it's legit.  Someone should clue
> in ebay, I can't find a way to do it quickly, it
> seems to want you user ID, and 12 to 36 hrs.
> WTF?