innovative fuel delivery systems. was:Engine died on highway - won't re-start

[Huw Powell]

Uh, no snippage, this is just too rich...

I once drove my '76 Vega across town to the garage that diagnosed the
faulty oil pressure switch ($2) that stopped the fuel pump from running
with gasoline supplied by a lawnmower gas tank right over the carb, and
a steady stream of gas that allowed me to sort of drive in 2nd if I kept
the throttle open.

Don't ever remember having to "limp" an Audi along like that though.
But then my memory ain't what it used to be...

Tom Donohue wrote:
>
> Stephane...either you are close to my vintage (1940) or come from a "less
> developed area" where you could do stuff like that (like I did in my youth...and
> still would, if my favorite marque wasn't so damn complicated).  Regards, Tom
>
> "Livolsi, Stephane" wrote:
>
> > Now THAT is innovation.  We don't need no steenkin' fuel distributor, eh?.
> > Reminds me of the good old (bad old) days when I was driving 60's and 70's
> > American iron.  Fuel pump dies? Hole in fuel lines? Punctured gas tank?
> > Solution is to rip out the windshield washer tubing and/or various
> > 'unnecessary' vacuum lines.(can't go buy new stuff cuz you are a million
> > miles from anywhere)  and either:
> > a) use the windshield washer pump to pump fuel from a bottle (pop, beer,
> > wine, paint, whatever) sitting on the seat to the carburetor (you do
> > remember carburetors, eh?)
> > b) put the bottle on the dash and let gravity do it's thing to get the fuel
> > to the carb while a helper regulates the flow by pinching the hose.
> >
> > Oh, my , this brings back memories....
> >
> > Stephane
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Rave Racer[SMTP:Ravewar at rogers.com]
> > > Sent:         February 1, 2002 9:26 AM
> > > To:   q-list; W-T_Audifans; Peter Berrevoets
> > > Subject:      Re: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> > >
> > >
> > >     I had this happen to me in my Jetta.  I don't know if yours has the
> > > Airflow plate in the intake boot like my Jetta and 4000 do.  I was doing
> > > 140
> > > way out in the boonys when the engine just quit on me.  I was pulled over
> > > on
> > > the side of the road with my freind cranking the engine when someone
> > > pulled
> > > up.  The stranger offered me help, but watched while I messed around with
> > > stuff.  I opened the intake boot and pulled out the air filter thinking it
> > > might be jammed up with something.  I started playing with the fuel
> > > distributor while my buddy tried starting it.  She fired right up.  The
> > > stranger had some stuff he was taking to the dump so I asked for the
> > > string
> > > from the venetian blinds.  I tied it to the plate and fed it out the top
> > > through a unused hole in the boot, out of the hood, through the passenger
> > > window and around to my shifting hand.  I drove it like that for two weeks
> > > until I could locate a replacement FI distributor.  I never did figure out
> > > what was wrong with that old distributor, but it's damn hard modulating
> > > your
> > > fuel flow by hand while driving.
> > >
> > >        Rave Racer
> > > '89 Jetta 1.8L 16V GTX
> > >  http://www.vwot.org/members/Pete.html
> > > '87 Audi 4000 Quattro Sedan
> > >  http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
> > > '72 Triumph GT6
> > >  http://motorcities.com/contents/01I3H011116682.html
> > > '83 Toyota Tercel (yoda)     Possible future Sandrail donor...  Maybe
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jouko Haapanen <joukoh at sympatico.ca>
> > > To: q-list <quattro at audifans.com>; W-T_Audifans
> > > <w-t_audifans at yahoogroups.com>; Peter Berrevoets <pjberr at rogers.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> > >
> > >
> > > My UrQ did the same to me once...had me stumped for quite a while.  My
> > > problem was the pressed in vacuum hose fitting on the rear of the intake
> > > manifold from which the ECU and some other vacuum lines initiate.  The
> > > fitting seemed perfectly fine when viewed (trust me, I was poking around
> > > for
> > > a while), but once I took hold of it, it just slid out of the manifold.
> > >
> > > I pulled it out, cleaned it, and tapped it in with a rubber mallet.
> > > Worked
> > > like a charm, but only after being towed and spending an hour or so under
> > > the hood scratching my head and going through various component tests.
> > >
> > > I'd check and double check all vacuum fittings....
> > >
> > > Jouko Haapanen
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: quattro-admin at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Peter Berrevoets
> > > Sent: February 1, 2002 11:24
> > > To: 2 W-T_Audifans; 1 Quattro List
> > > Subject: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> > >
> > >
> > > Have tried searching the archives but not having much luck...
> > >
> > > While driving on the highway the other night, everything was going fine
> > > and
> > > then the engine just died at ~120 kph. Total loss of power, costed off at
> > > the next ramp and parked it. Nothing appeared to be amiss, pulled codes
> > > and
> > > got 2221 - intake manifold hose failure to ecu(shouldn't kill engine), and
> > > 2214 - engine over rev (not this trip), cleared them, cranked the engine
> > > and
> > > got the same codes again. Had it towed home :-(
> > >
> > > Kind of stumped, fuel in tank, lots of battery juice, cranks over fine
> > > (new
> > > battery), but just won't even hint at starting. Usually the code dump
> > > would
> > > give a hint, but they don't seem to make sense. Hose to ecu checks out
> > > fine
> > > but that shouldn't kill the engine, and over rev on starter cranking? go
> > > figure.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Peter Berrevoets
> > > 1990 200TQ
> > > 1989 200TQ - Donor
> > > Toronto, Canada
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

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Huw Powell

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