innovative fuel delivery systems. was:Engine died on highway - won't re-start

[Tom Donohue]

Stephane...either you are close to my vintage (1940) or come from a "less
developed area" where you could do stuff like that (like I did in my youth...and
still would, if my favorite marque wasn't so damn complicated).  Regards, Tom

"Livolsi, Stephane" wrote:

> Now THAT is innovation.  We don't need no steenkin' fuel distributor, eh?.
> Reminds me of the good old (bad old) days when I was driving 60's and 70's
> American iron.  Fuel pump dies? Hole in fuel lines? Punctured gas tank?
> Solution is to rip out the windshield washer tubing and/or various
> 'unnecessary' vacuum lines.(can't go buy new stuff cuz you are a million
> miles from anywhere)  and either:
> a) use the windshield washer pump to pump fuel from a bottle (pop, beer,
> wine, paint, whatever) sitting on the seat to the carburetor (you do
> remember carburetors, eh?)
> b) put the bottle on the dash and let gravity do it's thing to get the fuel
> to the carb while a helper regulates the flow by pinching the hose.
>
> Oh, my , this brings back memories....
>
> Stephane
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Rave Racer[SMTP:Ravewar at rogers.com]
> > Sent:         February 1, 2002 9:26 AM
> > To:   q-list; W-T_Audifans; Peter Berrevoets
> > Subject:      Re: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> >
> >
> >     I had this happen to me in my Jetta.  I don't know if yours has the
> > Airflow plate in the intake boot like my Jetta and 4000 do.  I was doing
> > 140
> > way out in the boonys when the engine just quit on me.  I was pulled over
> > on
> > the side of the road with my freind cranking the engine when someone
> > pulled
> > up.  The stranger offered me help, but watched while I messed around with
> > stuff.  I opened the intake boot and pulled out the air filter thinking it
> > might be jammed up with something.  I started playing with the fuel
> > distributor while my buddy tried starting it.  She fired right up.  The
> > stranger had some stuff he was taking to the dump so I asked for the
> > string
> > from the venetian blinds.  I tied it to the plate and fed it out the top
> > through a unused hole in the boot, out of the hood, through the passenger
> > window and around to my shifting hand.  I drove it like that for two weeks
> > until I could locate a replacement FI distributor.  I never did figure out
> > what was wrong with that old distributor, but it's damn hard modulating
> > your
> > fuel flow by hand while driving.
> >
> >        Rave Racer
> > '89 Jetta 1.8L 16V GTX
> >  http://www.vwot.org/members/Pete.html
> > '87 Audi 4000 Quattro Sedan
> >  http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
> > '72 Triumph GT6
> >  http://motorcities.com/contents/01I3H011116682.html
> > '83 Toyota Tercel (yoda)     Possible future Sandrail donor...  Maybe
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jouko Haapanen <joukoh at sympatico.ca>
> > To: q-list <quattro at audifans.com>; W-T_Audifans
> > <w-t_audifans at yahoogroups.com>; Peter Berrevoets <pjberr at rogers.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > Subject: RE: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> >
> >
> > My UrQ did the same to me once...had me stumped for quite a while.  My
> > problem was the pressed in vacuum hose fitting on the rear of the intake
> > manifold from which the ECU and some other vacuum lines initiate.  The
> > fitting seemed perfectly fine when viewed (trust me, I was poking around
> > for
> > a while), but once I took hold of it, it just slid out of the manifold.
> >
> > I pulled it out, cleaned it, and tapped it in with a rubber mallet.
> > Worked
> > like a charm, but only after being towed and spending an hour or so under
> > the hood scratching my head and going through various component tests.
> >
> > I'd check and double check all vacuum fittings....
> >
> > Jouko Haapanen
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: quattro-admin at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
> > Behalf Of Peter Berrevoets
> > Sent: February 1, 2002 11:24
> > To: 2 W-T_Audifans; 1 Quattro List
> > Subject: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> >
> >
> > Have tried searching the archives but not having much luck...
> >
> > While driving on the highway the other night, everything was going fine
> > and
> > then the engine just died at ~120 kph. Total loss of power, costed off at
> > the next ramp and parked it. Nothing appeared to be amiss, pulled codes
> > and
> > got 2221 - intake manifold hose failure to ecu(shouldn't kill engine), and
> > 2214 - engine over rev (not this trip), cleared them, cranked the engine
> > and
> > got the same codes again. Had it towed home :-(
> >
> > Kind of stumped, fuel in tank, lots of battery juice, cranks over fine
> > (new
> > battery), but just won't even hint at starting. Usually the code dump
> > would
> > give a hint, but they don't seem to make sense. Hose to ecu checks out
> > fine
> > but that shouldn't kill the engine, and over rev on starter cranking? go
> > figure.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Peter Berrevoets
> > 1990 200TQ
> > 1989 200TQ - Donor
> > Toronto, Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >