4kq swaybar questions

[nicksimc]

Thanks for the help, I tried to head off this type of answer with my second
post, but everyone is responding to the first.  Once I looked at my car
(instead of listening to the archives), it was obvious that it had the "85
style" linkage in front.

Either way, the question was not  _when_ the change occurred but what
the effects of mixing the two types would be on the handling, and which
setup was better.  It has been suggested to me that the older style bar is
actually superior for performance driving, but so far that seems to be
speculation.

It has also been suggested that the CGT bar will make the car less tail
happy.  Ideally, I think I'd like a little more oversteer than it has now, so
that
when the center diff is _locked,_ the steering is maybe a tad more
tailhappy than it would be in a stock 4kq with the center diff _unlocked._

Now my question is whether or not an adjustable turnbuckle could be
fitted to the center of the bar in order to adjust stiffness.  This would seem
to be the best way to adjust the stiffness to taste.  Another idea to
counteract a tailhappy bar would be to underdrive or eliminate the power
steering, but I'd rather have the adjustable bar.

Thanks again,

Matt
82 4ks
84 4ksq

>===== Original Message From Martin Pajak <martin at quattro.ca> =====
>The bar itself is the same however there are two ways of mounting the
bar
>though.
>The change in mid '85.
>Previous version '81-mid'85 attaches using brackets that use only one
bolt
>and bracket pivots into place via tab.
>Mid'85 and newer use two bolts and nuts are welded onto the subframe
part.
>Much easier to install.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Cheers
>Martin Pajak
>
>http://www.quattro.ca
>
>1983 Audi Ur-quattro (265,000 km) Canada spec. Winter car
>1985 Audi Ur-quattro (141,000 km) Euro spec. import ;o)
>
>
>
>> nicksimc at plu.edu writes:
>> > How do the pre-84 bars compare to the 85-on bars?  I assume
>> that the later
>> > bars are an improvement, but just want to be sure.  I know that
>> I'll have
>> > to use the later control arms and linkage as well if I go to the 85-on
>> > style, but I'm willing to do this if it is worth it, and the
>> bushings are
>> > to be replaced anyway.
>>
>> The switchover to the front bar with the link rods at the end actually
>> occurred in mid-1983 model year in the 4000 and coupe series (earlier
>> 4Ks and coupes have the bar ends attached directly to the control arm
>> without the link rod).  I am not aware of any further change for
>> m.y. 1985.
>> Since the 4kq was introduced in the 1984 m.y. in the US, all of them
have
>> the "new" style bars.
>>
>> -Ti
>> 01 S4 2.7 biturbo quattro
>> 84 5000S 2.1 turbo
>> 80 4000 2.0
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