Was S4 owners help, now S4 vs Chipped 1990 200 tqa

[Lewis, Gary M]

I have a 1990 200 tqa, runs 1.8-1.9 bar (chip was designed by some factory
guys in the early 1990's, don't have details), 1991 Intercooler (I did a
full factory mod, very nice), and a bypass valve (which I don't like with
the K24.  Too much pressure drop between shifts).  My wagon is quite a bit
faster from 0-60ish (wasn't watching the speedo, but street speeds), esp off
the line than a stock S4.  It is also faster than a stock 1991 200 tqa.   I
think it is the weight difference in both cases.  I'd guess the S4's
overboost condition allows it to start pulling more or less even with the
chipped 1990 tqa from 3rd gear to 4th.

Another data point is Scott Mockry's site, he's got his car (similar to
mine), the 1991 200 tq, and the S4 performance data comparo's...

Gary Lewis
1990 200TQW, 1991 TQ Intercooler, 1.8 bar, Bypass Valve, Bilsteins, Euro's,
awaiting the RS2 turbo transplant...


> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:05:59 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Robert Deis <rdeis at io.com>
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: S4 owners help
>
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Huw Powell wrote:
>
> >
> > >   I said that my car a 90 200tqa with IA stageII chip
> > > and 2.0 bar is getting around 225HP and the S4 has
> > > 227HP stock I'm just a little shocked that my car
> > > feels faster than the S4.
>
> Torque curve?  Don't know the torque curve on the 200, but
> I've heard that
> its dead-flat on the TT and S4.  A flat torque curve is
> easier to control,
> and often *is* faster, but a peaky torque curve always *feels* faster.
>
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> Message: 6
> Subject: Subject: Re: S4 owners help
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Cc: ron_01056 at yahoo.com
> From: "Darrell Adams" <adamsdr at us.ibm.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:06:01 -0600
>
>
> Ron,
> I also get the digest, you get all the messages, just a little slower.
> I also post to several mailing lists, often getting NO reply
> to a question
> I really want input on.  You just have to ask something that sparks
> interest in someone else that they feel they have something
> to add.  I get
> pretty frustrated not asking the right things, so I usually just lurk.
>
> I don't know your car, nor the S4, but in my experience with
> chipped cars,
> the chip pushes the car for as much power as much as possible, while a
> stock car is designed to be smooth, and appeal to a wide
> variety of people.
> All the chipped cars I've owned and driven, feel like they
> have a 'punch'
> that stock cars don't. The exception may be some 16V vw's.
> (oh no! I said
> VW!)
>
> also, even if they're not EXACTLY the same car, they're
> closer than if it
> was comparing to a coup or a engine transplant car. sheesh.
>
>
> D (maybe I just get too wordy in posts) Adams
>
> '89 90Q
> '90 G60 (oh no! I have a vw! I'm going to get kicked off the quattro
> list....)
> '99 A4TQ
>
> "Linux will set you free" - me
>
>   Eric, listers
>
>   Looks like Eric is the only one with some advice for
> me,
>  While I thank him I all ready looked at SJM's site it
> is very informative but I own a 90 200tqa not 91 and I
> have a wagon not a sedan so the comparisons weren't of
> any use to me I still found it interesting,
>   I said that my car a 90 200tqa with IA stageII chip
> and 2.0 bar is getting around 225HP and the S4 has
> 227HP stock I'm just a little shocked that my car
> feels faster than the S4.
>  Maybe I should post something on the S4 site since
> I've only gotten 1 response I was hoping for a lot
> more cause I'd like some info on this model and the
> options
>  I'm not sure this matters but I'm on the digest not
> the main list
>  do I get all the mails that everyone else gets?
> Thanks
> Ron
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